On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Aryeh Gregor <simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com<simetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> In the absence of further data, the only real argument I saw for > restoring the interlanguage links by default is to show how > international Wikipedia is and raise awareness about how many other > languages are supported. In this case they aren't actually meant to > be clicked on, so a low click rate isn't a problem. They're more of > an advertisement. This is a fairly reasonable argument -- the huge > size of the language list is a plus, not a minus, from this > perspective. I don't know if it outweighs concerns about clutter, > though. Maybe. > It isn't a bad argument, I know I consider it a good one, but the biggest problem I see at the moment is that I don't think normal users have any IDEA that they are hidden over there. I have yet to meet a reader who realizes that. I said earlier that I had had 5 people ask me why we got rid of the language links. I've had 2 more ask since then ask and 2 of the original 5 call me up and ask me to explain where the button was to show the languages because even after I told them it was there they couldn't find it. I would love to see a survey that asked readers if they saw them but I don't know exactly how you could word it. Obviously I'm someone who wants them there (for many reasons, the international component not a small one among them) and so am bias about it but I just don't see the argument that having them there causes to many issues. I also don't totally understand the "the user just has to click once and then they're set" argument. I've found that even as a user who is wandering around logged in I find myself having to click to open up the language links several times a day. I keep forgetting to throw something into my global.js so that it isn't an issue for me personally but :/ James Alexander james.alexan...@rochester.edu jameso...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l