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If you have any further suggestions or comments, they are very welcome. Please use either the <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_language_issues#English>English or <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_language_issues#Portugu.C3.AAs>Portuguese sections of the <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_language_issues>talk page for debate. Thank you all so very much. Sincerely, Virgilio A. P. Machado At 23:41 24-03-2010, you wrote: >On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Virgilio A. P. >Machado <v...@fct.unl.pt> wrote: > Mark, > > A >page in the Portuguese Wikipedia could shut >out > the community at large. A bilingual page >would be > very hard to pull off. As far as I >can tell, > non-Portuguese discussions are not >welcomed there. > > I looked at Meta and saw no >place for a page like > that. Could you be more >specific? > > That's why I brought the question >to the list: I > really don't know where a >discussion like that > could take place within >the projects of the Wikimedia Foundation. > > >Going back to my initial posting: > > «Perhaps >the question is not the creation of a > new >version of Wikipedia, but to make the > >Portuguese Wikipedia appealing to all readers >and > writers (editors) of the Portuguese >language. > There might be solutions and >proposals to address > this problem which have >been kept from seeing the > light of day, for >untold reasons. > > It might be worthwhile to >open a page where the > discussion could be >centralized.» > > Like Chad pointed out, even >within this > discussion, there have been posts >suggesting > several helpful rules and technical >approaches. > Solutions from different projects >could be > brought together and would be >available for all > those where they might be >useful. This would make > the discussion less >specific to the Portuguese > Wikipedia but more >valuable to the Wikimedia > community. Even with >that broader scope I don't > know where to >start. If there's not already a > place like >that, where would it appropriate to create >one? > > Sincerely, > > Virgilio A. P. >Machado > > > At 17:44 24-03-2010, you >wrote: >>I think there are two options: Meta and >pt.wp itself. My personal opinion is >>that it >does not need to be bilingual, but that is of >course up to you. >> >>On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at >5:17 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado ><v...@fct.unl.pt>wrote: >> >> > Thanks Chad. I >know that, but what kind of page (what title)? >Where? >> > Would it be alright to be >bilingual? >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > >> > >Virgilio A. P. Machado >> > >> > >> > At 23:25 >23-03-2010, you wrote: >> > >It requires you to >take initiative to start the page and try to >draw >> > >others into a discussion. You don't >need anyone's permission to do >> > >that. Also, >I think it was (briefly) glossed over before, >but there >> > >/is/ the Language Converter code >in MediaWiki that could be >> > >leveraged to >help some here. I don't think it's necessarily a >magic >> > >bullet, but it's worth exploring. I >know nothing in Portuguese, so I >> > >don't >really grasp how widespread the discrepancies >are, but I >> > >assume there's rules to >describe them. Social solutions are >also >> > >helpful, like the aforementioned >American/British and Cyrillic/Latin >> > >issues >mentioned earlier in the thread. A combination >of social and >> > >technical solutions might >just help bring some closure to >this >> > >issue. >-Chad >>_________________________________________ >______ >>foundation-l mailing >list >>foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>Unsubsc >ribe: >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > >foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > For lack of anywhere else, start it up at >[[Portuguese language issues]] or something. I'm >not a regular metapedian, so there might be a >better place--I just can't think of a *specific* >place offhand. -Chad >_______________________________________________ >foundation-l mailing list >foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
