On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 5:21 PM, David Levy <lifeisunf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Are you suggesting that it's unlikely that a pedophile could edit with > the degree of productivity that that we ordinarily demand of editors > in good standing?
No. I'm am saying that the ordinary demands are far far too low, though. >> I don't see anything unjust about treating someone differently because >> they're a pedophile. > > Okay, so your position is not that the degree of collateral damage > (the banning of pedophiles who are productive editors) would be > negligible, but that this is irrelevant (because all pedophiles > deserve to be banned from editing, regardless of how they conduct > themselves). Correct? No. I *am* saying that a degree of collateral damage (the banning of pedophiles who are productive editors) would be negligible, and acceptable. But I'm also saying that this has nothing whatsoever to do with "justice". > "Openly [admitting] to > being a pedophile" could apply to the public statement "I struggle > with a condition called pedophilia, for which I receive therapy." Yes, if you ignore the context in which I said it, of which my footnote was part. > You just conveyed your suspicion that "a number of Wikipedians on this > very mailing list" condone pedophilia. Yes. And it's more than just a suspicion. Many Wikipedians on this mailing list have said things which have brought me to this conclusion, but on and off the list. I could start naming names, but that'd probably get me into trouble. >> What I equate with a lack of willingness to judge pedophiles as "wrong" >> is when someone refers to a such a ban with a comment that "We should not >> judge people by what their opinions are, however apalling we may find >> them". > > Then you've completely missed the point. What part of someone finding > an opinion "appalling" do you associate with the absence of > disapproval? The part about not judging them, and the referring to pedophilia as an "opinion". _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
