On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Milos Rancic<mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Marc Riddell<michaeldavi...@comcast.net> > wrote: >> And it is this control group, this "consolidation of power" which was >> described earlier in this discussion, that is keeping the Project from >> reaching its full potential. This issue has been brought up many times in >> the past, but each time has been conveniently ignored by this group - which >> in psych language constitutes denial. In fact, this practice of ignoring >> persons and/or issues they don't want to confront appears to be a handy >> refuge for members of this group. There appears to be a fear in some of the >> more forceful in this group that, if they loosen their grip, they will be >> left behind. Perhaps they will if they don't grow with it. In any case, this >> is one of the most pressing issues facing the Project today. And one, if not >> confronted, which will cause the Project to fall into mediocrity as newer, >> more tolerant, more innovative projects come into being. > > Fully agreed, especially with the last couple of sentences. > > ... And except the last one. There will be no similar project to > Wikimedia, at least during this century. Projects like Wikipedia are > extremely expensive. Which [rational] projects have or had one million > of direct contributors? Great Wall, Chinese electrical system, Indian > railway system? Maybe. Wikipedia had momentum (and because of that > Jimmy's role is priceless) and it is very hard that we'll see another > project of such dimensions soon. > > As we are inside of the project, we are not able to realize the > dimensions of what we are building. The biggest number of articles, > number of words, contributors... -- are just trees in the wood which > we have created. Numbers are just statistical facts which are not > important as is. But, all of them make a wood which existed never > before (and, probably, which won't exist for a long time again). > > The point is that we, now and here, are making much bigger decisions > than how to keep ~10TB of data and build another 100TB of [very > useful] data in the next couple of years. Our work affects the whole > human civilization. Would we be able to keep or not our projects as > healthy places, this would give the answer which path would be used by > our civilization. > > We have two non-exclusive possibilities: (1) centralized >
Hm. Mail hasn't been finished. I wanted to save it and consider finishing it later (probably, I wouldn't send it). So, probably, you should forget for this email :) _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l