The point I was making is that I expect people will continue importing and exporting as per past practice with no attention given to the issue and few people caring. From a legal point of view that's not optimal, but I think it's highly likely.
Who set the August 1 deadline and who has the power to extend it if needed? Newyorkbrad On 5/27/09, Samuel Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > Brad : the practical implications are that we will lose the ability to > copy work from a set of familiar collaborative sites -- many of which > chose their license specifically to facilitate long-term exchange with > Wikipedia -- and they will slowly lose access to the latest WP > updates over months or years. (we are also gaining direct access to > new sites, but that happens regardless of how we approach this hurdle) > > > Thomas Dalton writes: >> The only situation where there is going to be a problem is moving >> content from a wiki that doesn't convert to a Wikimedia wiki. Going >> the other way will be fine in most cases, most Wikimedia content will >> be dual licensed. > > Yes, wikipedia will continue to dual license for as long as this is > possible. This will help GFDL-only projects dependent on Wikipedia > benefit from future edits for as long as possible, but it will only > last so long. Once CC-BY-SA content is merged into an article, future > revisions of the article are BY-SA only. Within a couple of years, > Wikipedia will be basically a BY-SA project (with a historical > snapshot still available under GFDL). Third parties should not be > fooled into thinking that this finesse is equivalent to being a > dual-licensed project forever. If they don't switch now, they will > not have the chance to do so in the future. > > > geni writes: >> Not much. Not many active third party GFDL projects so it is unlikely >> that there will significant amounts of new GFDL content produced in >> future and most existing stuff of interest has long since been >> imported. > > A quick look at the recentchanges of the 18 large wikis listed on the > outreach page will show you that it's not true that "most existing > stuff of relevance has long been imported" -- these are active > communities, each working in their own world; which sporadically draw > from Wiki[p]edia and from which we slightly more sporadically draw in > return. > > I am surprised you (of all people :) have such faith in the horde or > importers. I was looking at the glorious media and high-res source > text scans at wdl.org yesterday, and could not find a single piece of > that public domain media that was already on Commons and used in the > obvious Wikipedia article / on its own Wikisource page. Maybe I > wasn't looking in the right place... but that's a month after a global > publicity blitz. > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM, effe iets anders > <[email protected]> wrote: >> as long as they convert /before/ the deadline... > > Exactly. And there are some energetic new projects such as Medpedia > that are just getting off the ground, with enthusiastic new authors > and a constellation of supporters... they'd probably love to convert, > but need someone to explain this to them in time for them to work > through their own red tape. > > SJ > > >> 2009/5/27 Thomas Dalton <[email protected]>: >>> 2009/5/27 Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) <[email protected]>: >>>> Thanks for circulating this. >>>> >>>> Not to create a self-fulfilling prophecy here, but I suspect that 90% >>>> or more of those affected by this issue will not care or will not >>>> understand the urgency, and they will not do anything, either on their >>>> own sites or on-wiki. What are the practical implications of this if >>>> nothing happens and little attention is paid by anyone? >>> >>> The only situation where there is going to be a problem is moving >>> content from a wiki that doesn't convert to a Wikimedia wiki. Going >>> the other way will be fine in most cases, most Wikimedia content will >>> be dual licensed. If every Wikimedian that takes content off other >>> wikis (how many of those are there?) goes to those wikis and >>> recommends they convert, then we should be ok. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> foundation-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
