again thats true only today and still for a little few years from now,
just because HTML5 is not fully ready yet.
i really don't understand your optimism about flash runtimes, when even
Adobe made a big shift to HTML5, and narrowed flash runtimes to a
specific area.
i personnaly was still optimist, until Adobe shifted. Because i believed
that the flash runtimes were still usefull and better choice against
HTML5 for several years until JS evolved to something better and HTML5
gain in performances.
i tought that Adobe could have managed a smooth transition from plugin
world to HTML5 world by ouputing the previous swf, to the new runtime.
And the flash platform, meaning tools and frameworks (including flex)
would be very relevant in an HTML5 world with that output shift. I was
hoping that pushed by the developpers, JS could have evolved to an OOP
language quite close to what AS3 is today. (AS3 is by essence a
proposition of a future of JS)
But Adobe did not chose this smooth path, so now im very pessimistic.
Le 17/11/2012 18:34, Hordur Thordarson a écrit :
Yeah well Firefox is in a hole re the Flash plugin because they need it for
video playback (H264) which btw is driving a lot of web usage these days.
I haven't been following the dev of the Chrome pepper stuff so I can't comment
on that. I do use Flash in Chrome a lot though and haven't had any major
problems. But YMMV as always.
As for the plugin architecture in the browser, it is allready mostly gone from
mobile browsers, but I don't think it will dissappear from desktop browsers any
time soon because there are still a lot of things the Flash plugin can do that
the browsers can't and there is also an enormous amount of software out there
that requres the Flash plugin and developers like are still adding more, just
look at the activity in Flash based games running in the browser (Zynga, Rovio
and a bunch of others are still happily churning out Flash based games).
On 17.11.2012, at 16:34, Omar Gonzalez wrote:
On Saturday, November 17, 2012, Hordur Thordarson wrote:
But maybe I'm reading all this wrong or maybe I'm believing too much what
I think I'm reading or maybe the people here advocating a HTML/JS strategy
for Flex have been burned more by Adobe than I have.
Bingo!
Also, Adobe can say whatever they want about their plans for Flash Player
plugins. The truth is Firefox has at one point stated, from one of their
VPs, that they would love to just not have a plugin architecture at all and
basically tell Flash to go F itself. Microsoft tried that with Metro and
they got some backlash so they put it back in 'desktop' mode. Then we have
the Chrome pepper API, wow, wht a mess. It gets buggier and buggier with
time. What does this all say to me? Plugin architecture has its days
numbered. You can shove your head in the sand and choose to ignore the
writing on the wall or you can start to strategize for a life without Flash
Player plugin. I choose to be prepared. Whether HTML5 is ready or not and
whether its more efficient to develop in or not that is where the industry
is heading.
-omar
