On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Carol Frampton wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> I'd like to vote with you but I am still pondering the situation.  In your 
> scenerio where would you work on something like a rewrite or a new major 
> piece of functionality that might only be half done at release time.

Branch or Whiteboard.

Branch if discussed with Lazy Consensus.

Whiteboard for wild ideas.

Here is a real branching example from Apache POI. Several years ago MSFT came 
out with the OOXML spec for Office Docs along with an OSP. The project was then 
able to start switching from hacking the file format to reading specs. Plus we 
added support for OOXML.

We were working on trunk for 3.1 and made a branch for 3.5 and OOXML work - 
this branch existed for perhaps a year. Meanwhile 3.1 and 3.2 were released 
from trunk.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> I am totally opposed to using source control not yet totally supported by 
> infra.  I'd be ok with Git once that happens.
> 
> Carol
> 
> Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT&T
> 
> 
> -----Original message-----
> From: Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
> To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" <flex-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2012 21:40:03 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Branching Strategy and SCM
> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> My opinion/vote is (4) - no guts, no glory - work in trunk and learn to
> >> co-operate.
> >> 
> >> The vote is more about the Classic model than it is about Git  vs. SVN.
> >> 
> >> To me svn tag == git branch.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> > 
> > 
> > People that use Git a lot would strongly disagree with "svn tag == git
> > branch". For starters, SVN tags are supposed to not ever be edited, and Git
> > branches are used for almost all new code addition/changes in the "nvie"
> > model, so they're from from ==.
> 
> I'm more thinking this from what happens in the central repository and what 
> gets marked up in the history from a few comparisons I've done.
> 
> When you branch in git you are marking where you are in the main repos, 
> correct? If you never push it back the central repos never really cares about 
> your branch, correct? So to the repository a branch is like a tag.
> 
> My opinion is that git is just putting off the work of integrating diverse 
> changes into a single release. I feel the same about the 3-Tier plan. It is 
> just putting ALL the work of deciding what is in a release to a Release 
> Manager.
> 
> Really the Apache Way is for the Committers and the PPMC to share this 
> responsibility. As this podling must know, you never, ever know when someone 
> will exit.
> 
> But go ahead and go the way you want, it is up to you all.
> 
> Really what is the worst that can happen if someone plays in trunk and makes 
> a mistake?
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> > 
> > -omar
> 

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