On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > There have been some discussions with the Mentors about graduation. As you > can see from the branching discussion, we still could use some mentor > guidance from time to time.
Honestly, I don't think that requires mentor guidance as much as it does consensus building. It's really just part of the community trying to figure out how it wants to work. Unless the chosen strategy is a clear violation of apache guidelines the only thing the mentors can add to the discussion is our own opinion. I think there's still some mentor guidance needed, but it would be in helping people better understand the transition from a corporate-driven project to a community-driven project in the Apache Way. I really only express that to say this: It's perfectly fine to seek guidance from the mentors if you feel like you can't figure out the way forward. But at some point the project needs to find its own legs. Let's be careful not to rely too heavily on the mentors to resolve things that the PPMC should figure out. These are hard decisions, and as a mentor, I don't mind offering my opinion. But at some point the project members just need to make a go of it. As with many things in software, we have far-reaching decisions that need to be made up front. But we can't be expected to understand all the consequences of those decisions up front. Perhaps the best approach is to try something for a while and re-eveluate it in a couple months. Do things in small, easily reversible steps. With Subversion we can always undo something we don't like. Having said all that, I have no problem waiting for another release to graduate. I'd also have no problem supporting a graduation vote if it was put forward today. Greg