Hi All,

Same time last week i posted an email subjected "Painful Story..." which create some panic and some good discussions as well about how to use this mailing list. Finally someone came out with good point to mention the subject line with *[OT]*. This email is "*Off Topic*" and not related to development of Apache Flex SDK (and off-course i really don't know about Jenkin build and lot more what you are discussing). But i want to follow this mailing list to get latest update regarding flex.

And thanks Justin for the PPT. If someone doesn't know about what happens to flex for past 10 months, it will be a quick reference. I hear about spoon lot more times. But your one picture explained me what is their contribution to flex. As per your picture, they are going to give most of the contribution for flex in future.

I am not so good like Justin and other PPMC members in this list regarding programming experience. So i am always having lot of questions? That looks clever to me. But it might be silly to you :-) . But anyhow that should be asked and get clarified.

I have already told in my 'Painful Story..' email, i tried to create a lay-out which is similar to our Flex's HGroup / HBox's functionality and difficulties i am facing with width=100% is not calculating similar to flex. I inspected lot of websites, who are all having similar layouts. Everyone specify a static width and leave some space empty (we can set full width using javascript). After spending lot of time in Google search, finally i found a way to do it. If anyone wish, i will share my code somewhere else (Because no HTML codes here).

I did that using *display:flex and box-flex* css properties. You could read it in the following links.

    1.http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-css3-flexbox-20090723/#propdef-box-flex
    2.http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-flexbox/

And unfortunately they give 'flex' name to a single property. I should tell them real Flex can do better than their HTML (to smile not to discuss).

*Some questions to Adobe (i hope some Adobe people might listen this):*

1.I saw in *http://html.adobe.com/* that, adobe proposing lot of new stuffs to W3c like CSS Regions, CSS Shaders, CSS Exclusion, CSS Compositing, CSS Transforms etc.But why they didn't propose these things (HGrop etc) to W3C for better layout. Because the samething still in proposal state in some other name as i mentioned earlier. You guys are expert in layout and in controls. You have vast experience in this area and you have already succeeded in this. Why you should not propose them to W3C?

2.As per your recent proposals to W3C you are trying to concentrate on screen-magic in HTML5 like what flash did in last decade. But as per my web knowledge proper lay-outing and controls are also more important.

3.This question might be really stupid. But i thought in this way sometime. Is it tough to replace Flex UIComponent with HTML5 Canvas and create a new JavaScript framework? I know UIComponent is the heart of Flex. If we replace that alone with HTML5-Canvas everything else will be just a code conversion from Actionscript to JavaScript.We will definitely face browser compatibility issues. But already adobe is working with chrome-webkit. Mozilla and Safari are updating themselves very quickly. IE alone might give some trouble. But they too mingle with the crowd using their IE10.

Why don't Apache think about it. Why we should restrict our knowledge only with flex. Why don't we take our flex to next level. I am not speak about ActionScript to Javascript code conversion tool. It is about building future web with existing knowledge.

And another question, If small devices get same kind of hardware support like nowadays desktop after 4 years, will Apple enable Flash in thier browser? If so, then everyone will start run behind the Flex.Until this forum keep Flex healthy and live.

Why i always wrote lot of things here, this email list having lot of PPMC members who are all expert and part of big organizations. Those organizations only decide the web. All we need one standard non-confusing code base.

                I hope i did my part. Happy weekend !!!!!!.

-Sathyamoorthi.

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