no i don't believe. I love Flex :) but lots of my connections have the problem, that the costumers want html5, but it would be much better and useful in flash. like at join.me , we are experimenting with html5, but it is so slow. while flash works awesome. customers pay, and they are stupid, they believe in media.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Quentin Le Hénaff <lek...@gmail.com> wrote: > Flash, in order to die, HTML5 Canvas should live and be performant ; which > is not what I see... BTW, do you really believe the Media ;) ? > > I strongly agree with Rui ; in a way, every technology relies on another > technology that has its own drawbacks. Let's focus on stuff. > With a strong argumentation, we could ask or force Adobe to do something > about the FP or even create a fork on the project if really necessary, but > we are not here now ; let's keep it simple for the beginning > > 2012/1/10 Csomák Gábor <csom...@gmail.com> > > > sorry for starting a flame war. i just meant, that if flash really dies > > (what is the purpose of the media), flex also. recreating it in > javascript > > is not an option. > > i meant we need to show, that there is place for both flash and html5. > the > > two things is completely different. html5 has a canvas tag. so what? > flash > > has a webview component. > > but if the people hear every day that flash is dead, they won't pay for a > > flash ria, even if it would be faster, better, cheaper. please don't > take > > it as an offense, i'm not fighting, it was my toughs. I'm young, so i can > > be wrong :) > > > > peace. > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Raju Bitter <rajubit...@googlemail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > This project should not, in my opinion, focus on the actual runtime > > > except for the very specific cases > > > > were it is absolutely necessary. I say that we deal with issues > > > regarding runtime and language when > > > > they appear letting the community decide how to best deal with them. > > > Don't really agree with you here. Even Adobe started investigating > > > JavaScript generation out of ActionScript code. If the creator of > > > Flex, ActionScript and Flash investigate cross-compilation of > > > ActionScript to JavaScript, why should Apache Flex ignore that > > > approach? > > > > > > I see one of the chances of an Apache Flex versus Adobe Flex that the > > > community can drive the project into a direction, where an HTML5 based > > > runtime for Flex will be created. If you'd rather see that as a > > > separate project next to Flex (e.g. Apache Falcon), that's of course > > > an option. > > > > > > Is there any legally binding agreement between Apache Flex and Adobe > > > that the company will always provide a runtime environment for Flash > > > for the next 3-5 years? If not, Adobe can at any time pull the plug on > > > - let's say - desktop browser Flash Player, and only offer AIR/mobile > > > App generation out of ActionScript. > > > > > > Just my thoughts, I'm aware of the fact that quite a few people will > not > > > agree. > > > > > > - Raju > > > > > >
