I'm probably worrying about this a bit too early and I know I've violated this a bit also. I'm going to watch what I say.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jonathan Campos <jonbcam...@gmail.com>wrote: > And you did. I made sure to apologize early to you because it wasn't your > comment, but just general comments of first priorities and what is > important. My worry is that some of these discussions hinder someone that > may come in that doesn't feel like they can help rearchitect the framework, > but just has a null-pointer fix to some component. I would worry that > someone would read these posts - which are all meant to be very positive > and get everyone rallied together - and worry that this is not a place for > them. > > I just want to make sure that everyone is welcome. > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Jeffry Houser <jef...@dot-com-it.com>wrote: > >> >> No argument. >> >> I'd like to think I was clearly expressing personal preference, not >> dictating other people's actions. >> >> >> On 1/4/2012 5:44 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: >> >>> Just to be fair. If they want to make another set of Components that is >>> completely their choice. Sorry Jeff for responding with this to your post, >>> just see lots of people talking about what should and should not be done. >>> We all have to remember that some people's passions may be in a different >>> direction then what we believe and that is perfectly okay. >>> >>> I can't say that everyone's passion will be accepted into the trunk, but >>> you are more than happy to work on it. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jeffry Houser <jef...@dot-com-it.com<mailto: >>> jef...@dot-com-it.com>**> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Has open Laszlo stayed up to date? I hadn't heard of it in many >>> years. >>> >>> I--personally--would rather see efforts put towards optimizing >>> existing Flex Components or the component framework; not on >>> creating a 3rd component framework within Flex. >>> >>> >>> On 1/4/2012 5:10 PM, Raju Bitter wrote: >>> >>> It would make sense to build a light-weight component set for >>> Flex, >>> which could be used for rendering Flex apps in HTML5 later on. The >>> approach could be based on the UI/component implementation >>> OpenLaszlo >>> has (which provides cross-compilation features for >>> ActionScript and >>> JavaScript, check this demo): >>> http://vimeo.com/32853986 >>> HTML5 version >>> http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_**demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=** >>> dhtml<http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=dhtml> >>> SWF version >>> http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_**demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=** >>> swf10<http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps_demos/demos/lzpix/app.lzx?lzr=swf10> >>> >>> 2012/1/4 Fréderic Cox<frede...@exuvis.com >>> <mailto:frede...@exuvis.com>>: >>> >>> >>> And it's not only on mobile, on desktop (mostly Mac's) >>> this is a problem >>> also. I'm talking about big enterprise applications and >>> websites here >>> (like a CMS with graphical skin applied, nothing really in >>> standard Flex >>> skin) >>> >>> On 04/01/12 22:49, "Arthur >>> Lockman"<arthurlockman@ajobi.**net <arthurlock...@ajobi.net> >>> <mailto:arthurlockman@ajobi.**net <arthurlock...@ajobi.net>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> +1 on this. Performance definitely needs to be >>> addressed on Flex. I've >>> noticed that on newer devices, it works fine. But on >>> the slightly older >>> ones, performance is a huge issue. Hopefully we can >>> get in there and >>> clean it up so it performs better. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Arthur Lockman | Senior Developer @ Vivace >>> vi.vace.me <http://vi.vace.me> >>> Twitter: @arthurlockman >>> a.rthr.me <http://a.rthr.me> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Fréderic Cox >>> wrote: >>> >>> I've worked on Flex applications for the past 4-5 >>> years and see a lot >>> of developers picking it up since it is easy to >>> create rich >>> applications. However performance is often an issue. >>> >>> I mostly see it when using a lot of styles (or one >>> large CSS file) and >>> skinned components (It is even worse with Flex 4 >>> then it was with Flex >>> 3). When a Flex application gets really large the >>> UI is blocked because >>> there is too much actionscript code needed to get >>> things running. (with >>> this I mean the processing time is acceptable but >>> UI is blocked so the >>> perception is that things are slow) >>> >>> Therefore I'd like to vote on improving the >>> performance of the Flex >>> framework where possible so new and existing >>> applications can benefit. >>> Flex 4 with spark is great but comes with some >>> performance drawbacks, I >>> hope we can improve on this significantly. >>> >>> I'm speaking on behalf of the experience and >>> perception in the company >>> I work for, I'm curious to see if this is also a >>> problem for the rest of >>> you. >>> >>> I'm not the expert here but I'd like to get >>> involved and learn so I can >>> eventually help to fix issues but I believe >>> UIComponent had some >>> overhead and this together with the StyleManager >>> can cause performance >>> drawbacks in large applications >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Jeffry Houser >>> Technical Entrepreneur >>> 203-379-0773 <tel:203-379-0773> >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.flextras.com?c=104 >>> UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready! >>> -- >>> http://www.theflexshow.com >>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com >>> http://www.asktheflexpert.com >>> -- >>> Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jonathan Campos >>> Dallas Flex User Group Manager >>> http://www.d-flex.org/ >>> blog: >>> http://www.unitedmindset.com/**jonbcampos<http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos> >>> twitter: >>> http://www.twitter.com/**jonbcampos<http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jeffry Houser >> Technical Entrepreneur >> 203-379-0773 >> -- >> http://www.flextras.com?c=104 >> UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready! >> -- >> http://www.theflexshow.com >> http://www.jeffryhouser.com >> http://www.asktheflexpert.com >> -- >> Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust >> >> > > > -- > Jonathan Campos > Dallas Flex User Group Manager > http://www.d-flex.org/ > blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos > -- Jonathan Campos Dallas Flex User Group Manager http://www.d-flex.org/ blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos
