Hi Greg, Regarding Spoon, are there things an Apache project typically does not do that Spoon or some other entity should be doing? Like promotion, education, training etc.?
-Alex On 1/4/12 12:40 PM, "Greg Reddin" <gred...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks! > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Jonathan Campos <jonbcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >> @Greg >> >> http://www.spoon.as/ >> >> Spoon is a nonprofit corporation created by some community members to >> promote, educate, and contribute to the Flex framework. From the link you >> can see basic bits of information and specifically read the core values. >> Some of this data needs to be updated as it was written before the Flex >> Summit but I'm sure you can get more than the gist of it. >> >> HTH >> >> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >> >>> So for practical reasons, I think we're going to start with >>> commit-then-review. >>> >>> If you try to commit a new component, that commit will be reviewed and >>> vetoed out if there is a problem. >>> >>> So let's get specific. Let's say you want to contribute your version of a >>> Spark TabNavigator component. Adobe has almost finished its version and >>> promised to commit it. I would recommend starting a discussion on this >>> list >>> about whether to take yours vs Adobe's. That way you'll at least have an >>> idea whether folks are willing to review your version or want to wait for >>> Adobe. Then if you do decide to commit, we'll take a harder look at the >>> code and maybe you'll get rejected if we find some major problem, but >>> otherwise it gets in. And if folks want to wait for Adobe and you >>> disagree, >>> you can offer it up under a different package name. I suppose someone >>> might >>> still try to veto that based on confusing folks about which TabNavigator to >>> use, so that might be worth discussing up front as well, but I personally >>> don't have a problems with different flavors of components. >>> >>> -Alex >>> >>> >>> On 1/4/12 12:19 PM, "Michael Schmalle" <m...@teotigraphix.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Quoting Jonathan Campos <jonbcam...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> That is an exact question that I asked at the Flex Summit specifically >>> for >>>>> the group. >>>>> >>>>> Roy Fielding had a great analogy/answer. >>>>> The main idea is that this is that we are throwing a party, not running >>> a >>>>> business with free labor. So people need to be energized about what they >>>>> are doing, they aren't there to be given tasks. >>>>> >>>>> As such there is no roadmap. You may come up with a great idea and start >>>>> working on it, then when other people see what you are doing they may >>> join. >>>>> Over time your idea snowballs and gets added in, but this doesn't mean >>> that >>>>> there is a formal roadmap for people to sit at and program away against. >>>>> >>>>> However this is where Spoon comes in. We do have plans and roadmaps of >>>>> features we want to add. Some take time and require people. If you are >>>>> interested in our roadmap (our party) you and anyone else is free to >>> join. >>>>> >>>>> Make sense? >>>>> >>>>> J >>>> >>>> This actually does make sense for features. >>>> >>>> So can I ask this, am I to then just look at the bug base, say hey >>>> that looks like something I can fix, fix it then commit it? >>>> >>>> Don't jump on this to quick, I am saying there needs to be a unit >>>> test? I remember Alex saying that Apache is usually commit & review >>>> but that they were trying for a review and commit in the beginning. >>>> Has anybody else heard this? >>>> >>>> Does there have to be votes on say a new component that would be added >>>> to the SDK? I'm really just trying to understand the algorithm of >>>> develop/test/fix/commit for an initial committer. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alex Harui >>> Flex SDK Team >>> Adobe Systems, Inc. >>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jonathan Campos >> Dallas Flex User Group Manager >> http://www.d-flex.org/ >> blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos >> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui