On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:12:49PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > Am 19.07.2018 um 21:41 schrieb Lou Logan <l...@lrcd.com>:
> > 
> >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, at 3:32 AM, Gyan Doshi wrote:
> >> 
> >> What's the volume of messages from non-subscribers relative to subscribers?
> > 
> > I'm not sure. I never did keep a running tally. I may be able to figure it 
> > out via the logs if I were motivated enough.
> > 
> > However, I can provide some limited info between 28 June - 17 July. I 
> > believe these were the messages I approved:
> > 
> > [FFmpeg-user] How to have ffmpeg use parallel processing when searching 
> > through a single video
> >    Reply by Carl. No response by OP.
> > [FFmpeg-user] Multi-Channel Audio Limitations?
> >    Reply by Carl. No response by OP.
> > [FFmpeg-user] Decoding frames as fast as possible
> >    Reply by Carl. No response by OP.
> > [FFmpeg-user] need help on making ffmpeg x64 for UWP
> >    Reply by Carl. No response by OP.
> > [FFmpeg-user] ffmpeg automation
> >    Reply by Cley. No response by OP.
> > [FFmpeg-user] Attempting to hardcode subtitles - no subtitles are present
> >    Reply by Carl. No response by OP.
> > [FFmpeg-user] Question regarding FFmpeg copyright
> >    Multiple replies. No response by OP.
> > [FFmpeg-user] Need old version ffmpeg win32 shared of Windows 32-bit Builds
> >    Reply by Moritz. No response by OP.
> > [FFmpeg-user] Output file #0 does not contain any stream
> >    Reply by Moritz. No response by OP.
> > [FFmpeg-user] Running out of RAM when copying 1080p H264 stream
> >    Send-subscribe-resend duplicate.
> > [FFmpeg-user] FFMPEG- Buffers
> > [FFmpeg-user] how to use Intel qsv codec for ffmpeg 4.0 
> > Re: [FFmpeg-user] FFserver doesn't work with HLS
> >    Non-verbatim duplicate.
> > [FFmpeg-user] [Add sei_user_data while encoding a h264 stream]
> > Re: [FFmpeg-user] Send audio to Axis encoder and change http_post header
> >    An "I'm having the same issue" reply to an old message.
> > [FFmpeg-user] Input from FIFO for Multiple Video Track
> > [FFmpeg-user] using ffmpeg launcher
> > 
> > Out of 17 approved messages 9 got a reply or replies. Out of those 9 there 
> > were 0 followup replies by the original posters. Not encouraging.
> > 
> > If these users received all messages they would be more likely to see 
> > replies to their messages.
> > 
> >> One issue I see with subscriptions is that the typical 'customer' of 
> >> *-users is someone only interested in solving their problem. Receiving a 
> >> bunch of unrelated messages every day, when one has only a narrow and 
> >> temporary concern with ffmpeg, is annoying.
> > 
> > Yes, it may be annoying, but it can easily be managed by simple client-side 
> > email filtering which should be an accessible and perhaps even familiar 
> > option for most users these days (filtering is recommended by the Mailing 
> > List FAQ), and they can easily unsubscribe/suspend delivery at will.
> > 
> > More annoying, in my opinion, is spending time answering a message that 
> > will likely never be read. There always are more questions than answers. We 
> > are just volunteers and only have limited time to answer an unending stream 
> > of questions across various resources (mailing lists, IRC, various third 
> > party forums, Stack Exchange, etc), as I'm sure you are familiar with.
> > 
> >> When the list receives a message from a first-time non-subscriber user, 
> >> can Mailman either auto-subscribe them or send out an email with a link 
> >> to a pre-filled subscription page ? Just thinking of ways to reduce 
> >> friction or annoyance for someone who's just discovered the ML and wants 
> >> to post a query.
> > 
> > I appreciate the suggestions, but the problem is spam. There is lots of it 
> > every day. If an address is auto-subscribed we would be inundated. As for 
> > the link, users do get a reply telling them their message is in the queue 
> > and requires approval. Don't know about a pre-filled subscription page.
> 

> As long as we can‘t configure it to send thread-only replies to unsubscribed 
> users there is hardly an option at hand IMHO.

This would be the ideal solution


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