On 25 April 2017 at 01:26, Aaron Levinson <alevi...@aracnet.com> wrote:
> On 4/24/2017 5:05 PM, Compn wrote:
>
>> as a few developers have wondered...
>>
>> how is our project to judge, report and punish coc violations?
>>
>> since we had a vote to approve of the COC, we will probably need
>> another vote to approve of the COC rules.
>>
>> do you want group consensus?
>> how big of a group? whos in the group?
>> who wants to do a bunch of crapwork telling devs to be nice in the
>> sandbox and stop throwing sand at each other or they'll get a timeout?
>>
>> do you want irc/ml admins to handle it? e.g. lou and me set moderation
>> flags on developers and delete mails that are not development related?
>>
>> who judges the judges?
>>
>> what if we scare off devs who get frustrated that the COC was not fully
>> fairly applied to everyone? e.g. one dev gets moderated while another
>> skates ? thats where the strife gains momentum.
>>
>> thoughts?
>>
>
> I think it would be best to set this aside for now. I think the reason
> things flared up again is nothing was ever resolved the last time around
> ("Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] opus_pvq: add resynth support and band
> encoding cost function"), and instead, it just sort of died down. There
> was such animosity displayed on that thread from specific individuals
> towards other specific individuals. No one benefits from that, least of
> all the people writing it or the people being targeted. I know what it is
> like to be in an environment in which co-workers basically hate each other,
> and it isn't pleasant, and I think it is reasonable to consider other
> people on this e-mail list as sort of co-workers.
>
> Perhaps what would be helpful would be to get these individuals together
> on a private IRC channel with someone who perhaps knows both of them to
> neutrally moderate and have them air their differences and ideally come to
> some sort of resolution and move forward. Its one thing to fire off an
> e-mail--its another to say things to someone's "face", so to speak.
>
> I'd also suggest, when passions are up, to step aside and then maybe come
> back to it later.
>
>
Yeah, that's a good idea, especially the stepping aside bit.
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