Hi

On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 01:45:38AM +0000, softworkz . wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-boun...@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of
> > Michael Niedermayer
> > Sent: Samstag, 29. März 2025 02:17
> > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] avfilter: Proof of Concept: enable
> > out-of-tree filters
> > 
> > Hi
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 10:23:50PM +0000, softworkz . wrote:
> > [...]
> > > >
> > > > The advantage of "git merge" wether by hand or by a automated tool
> > > > is that its not limited to what it can do. Its much more powerfull
> > >
> > > Git merge only works when there's a common baseline and the only
> > difference is the filter commit on top that you want to merge. It cannot
> > be used when there are different baselines, e.g. the filter is on top of
> > a the latest master branch and you want to merge it into an older
> > (release) branch, as that would add all the differences, not just the
> > filter.
> > > What you can do is cherry-picking the commit which adds the filter,
> > but the bigger the differences of the baseline, the bigger the problems
> > when cherry-picking.
> > >
> > >
> > > > and the changes outside adding the filter itself are very basic.
> > > > Conflicts are something that we can workaround in many ways if they
> > > > become a problem
> > >
> > > The changes are basic in fact, but the trouble it is causing each time
> > is beyond basic.
> > >
> > > To give you an idea of what I'm talking about I've recorded a short
> > screencast to illustrate what I mean:
> > >
> > > https://gist.github.com/softworkz/750da15adb259fa13c6b32277647d54e
> > 
> > Conflicts can only occur in areas belonging to more than one module
> > ATM, when adding a filter thats allfilters.c, Makefile, doc/filters.text
> > and configure
> > (and very similar files for other things than filters)
> > 
> > As nicolas suggested, if each filter is in its own directory no conflict
> > is possible.
> > configure just needs to include the Makefile, doc/*.texi, allwhatever.c
> > from each of these directories
> > 
> > About merges and revission differences.
> > A filter for ffmpeg 2.0 will possibly not work with 1.0 (in the currect
> > designs of using the internal API/ABI)
> > 
> > So if you have a filter based on 1.0, one on 1.0.3 and one on 1.0.8
> > and you merge these with the ffmpeg release 1.0.12
> > you get exactly the right thing full automatically
> > 
> > You can cherry pick too and the effect is about the same but if filters
> > share a common component merging will likely be less conflicting
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I suppose you haven't looked at the video. What it is showing are conflicts 
> in exactly all of those files where you think it would be easy going for Git, 
> but unfortunately that's not the case. Even a simple one-line addition can 
> create large conflicting blocks (many lines). This is what I'm talking about 
> and I've created that video because it's not what you would expect to happen, 
> but it happens all the time and it's often a much bigger annoyance than API 
> adaptions.
> 
> It's not quite clear why it happens, maybe it has something to do with how 
> Git identifies the context areas of changes. I'm wondering whether it could 
> handle it better if there were one or two blank lines in-between..?

can you show an example with command line git ?
like a simple sequence of commands that result in problems, that i can
replicate to look at what happens exactly

git merge is widely used in project MUCH bigger than our codebase

thx
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