> -----Original Message-----
> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-boun...@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of
> Vittorio Giovara
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2025 10:45 AM
> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
> de...@ffmpeg.org>
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Democratization
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 7:21 PM Michael Niedermayer
> <mich...@niedermayer.cc>
> wrote:
>
> > About people pointing to me as the cause of something they do.
> > Given iam in this project for over 20 years and iam the main author
> and
> > we had a fork long ago. With many people joining back together.
> There are
> > people who have had past hate and present hate towards me.
> > Whenever there is an oppertunity, some will point to me as teh
> > cause.
> >
>
> Well "look who it is the consequences of my own actions"
>
>
> > It makes sense to look at these and ask "do they point to a real
> issue?"
> > is there something we can learn and improve or is this just dislike
> towards
> > me and are they just asking for me to be "hanged"/"removed".
> >
>
> Who banned someone without cause and due process, and deleted the
> archive?
> Who is undermining the GA and filibustering the ffmpeg governance?
> Who prevented the previous CC from operating?
> Who is ignoring the scam of the ffmpeg booths at trade shows?
> Who helped keep relevant parts of the infrastructure hidden for
> years?
> Who is preventing new roots from joining and actual infrastructure
> work
> being done?
> Who posted insulting images on social networks?
> Who quoted the STF an unreasonable amount of money for a project that
> *everybody* agrees is not worth that much?
> Who argued for MONTHS about dubious code features, and pushed code
> (later
> reverted) to the main tree because it served their own branch?
> Who is refusing to join community discussions in person (or
> remotely), and
> keeps posting walls of text that are hard to track and makes
> following the
> discussion harder than needs to be?
> Who is pretending to be democratic and trying to appear as a martyr,
> causing people to leave while they actually wanted to contribute and
> help
> steward this community?
>
> I don't want to get banned again for posting a bullet list, but I
> definitely see a pattern. AND THIS IS JUST IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
>
> The thing is NOBODY wants to see you hanged or removed, we're just
> pleading
> to your common sense and that you listen to the community, allowing
> for an
> independent governance to effectively operate ffmpeg. If you can't
> satisfy
> the community requests, then yes, the "unfriendly emails" will
> continue
> until this behavior is put to an end. And I know you won't believe me
> because I'm from "the other side", but once again I invite you to the
> FOSDEM ffmpeg meeting and see what the community really thinks and
> wants
> for yourself.
>
> I do belive one big part of some people leaving over the last years
> is that
> > they are not enough in power.
> >
>
> This reads like "I want them to be good minions while I continue to
> do what
> I want", but you're right it's off topic.
for (i=0; i<12; i++) {
print("You did this you did that");
}
if (!(<give us control over ffmpeg>)) {
for (i=0; i<1000; i++) {
sendEmail("<more accusations>");
}
}
Sounds like the accusations are more a leverage than a concern..?
sw
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