On 1/21/2025 2:48 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi James

On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 01:22:52PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
On 1/21/2025 12:54 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi

On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 01:04:45PM +0100, Niklas Haas wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 14:39:29 -0600 Marth64 <mart...@proxyid.net> wrote:
Hello, in the context of a GA member,

I think there is general interest in modernizing technical tooling
specifically regarding ML/patch workflow vs. integrated git solution.
Both have their merits. I think what we have today is optimized for
some but cumbersome for many. Like shopping for a drill, it is good to
step back from time to time and ensure we have the right tools.

I think the problem statement of productivity being impacted from
outgrowing the current tooling is different from who is hosting it.

These are some options I noticed interest in (in no particular order):
- Forgejo
- GitLab
- Mailing List/Patch Workflow (current solution)

Since our last discussion at VDD, I have come to prefer Forgejo over GitLab
and would be in favor of hosting an instance on ffmpeg.org.


What are the current barriers to doing this. Michael, since you said that you
are in favor iff the community agrees with it, should we start a GA vote on
the matter?

I would instead of a secret GA vote, maybe wait a few days for discussion
to settle down and then just ask people on the ML about (yes vs no) (strong vs 
weak)
and a short paragraph about a switch to Forgejo

We can always start a Condorcet vote where the requirement is that only
non-anonymous votes are considered, if you think that will help (Maybe it
can even be forced to actually cast your vote?). A vote using mail replies
in a thread with yes/no is hard to follow.

we can force non anonymous voting, this isnt the main concern



Also, the vote can happen after a thread with replies stating support for
one or another solution, with optional argumentation if there's something to
say that hasn't been said already.


As well as a 2nd question:
namely on the threshold
should we switch if we have 51% ? or no strong opposition ? or how to draw
the line?

Ideally, there would be two votes. One to open the question if we move away
from ML patches, and then one to choose between Forgejo/Gitlab, if the first
vote succeeds. But i don't know if people will be ok with that.

that can be done too or a condorcet of gitlab/Forgejo/ML patches can be done

my concern is that the community is not just 49 people.
Then please, suggest names for people not currently in it that you think should be.

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