Hi Should we move to a different development system ? I dont know, but I belive we should carefully consider if we want to move to a gitlab like system that is a commercal / corporate and not community driven system that we can get stuck in. Companies get sold change owner/leader, and in no time gitlab can be owned by microsoft or another corporation and be merged with github or similar for example. Also i have a dislike for these browser based systems.
Should we move to videolan? This is a seperate question and has nothing to do with changing the "development system" ? We can install gitlab on our infrastructure, if the community decides that it wants gitlab. We can also install anything else the community wants. If people do move to videolan, i will not come along. I see not the slightest reason to give up our independance. Again, gitlab, is something i would avoid, but we can set it up on our infrastructure, ill come along i probably will no longer be able to test every patch. Because i just wont deal with this gitlab thing for each patch. Its a loss for the community and for code quality probably. OTOH, If some people move to videolan, I will not join them. That said, I find the discussions about such key decissions being done each year on "videolan developer days", inappropriate and hostile. Such a conference is great for people to sozialize, meet, discuss technical things drink their favorit drinks together and eat their favorit foods together. but key project decissions should be discussed where everyone has equal access. (and not just the option of traveling around the world) Not only does this matter for fairness and finding the best solutions, there is also the danger of political parties forming from the clustering of people discussing mainly within their silos. PS: As you certainly realize, iam trying to comment here on a discussion that i was not part of, and that i also only know a very terse summary of, so this certainly doesnt exactly match in. But what else can i do when people dont talk in public about the FFmpeg free software project and instead meet in private for that. (if its not private, provide a link to a recording of the whole uncut discussion) thx -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB "I am not trying to be anyone's saviour, I'm trying to think about the future and not be sad" - Elon Musk
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