On 17.04.2024 20:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:55:04PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
Hello,

On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, at 17:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
* ffchat
  (expand into realtime chat / zoom) this would
  bring in more users and developers, and we basically have almost


Better leave that for others.
There's an infinite amount of discord clones already.

iam not following that genre that much ...
so let me ask
are there any that
* preserve privacy (discord is not secure/private)
* allow audio / video / text chat
* scalable
* need no central server

Matrix? Elements? Mattermost? Rocket.chat? Jitsi?

These seem quite complex systems

Matrix says "(optional) end-to-end encryption" which for me is a fail

https://jitsi.org/security/
nicely explains their security. And i agree that anything running
primarely in a browser controlled by google cannot provide security/privacy

what i had in mind with ffchat initially was a much simpler system
simply something where 2+ people could connect and communicate with
video and audio (text being easy to add).

The complexity of ffchat would be more between /doc/examples and
ffplay.
My basic idea was that people would be identified by their public key
hash + DNS name. And then just setup a connection in a ffplay like
interface.

That sounds a bit like re-inventing Tox.
Which sadly seems a bit dead.
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