Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-10-03 21:22:58) > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 08:14:37PM +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > You keep framing this as some kind of a personal campaign against you. > > It is not. From my perspective, the objections to SDR have been largely > > technical, and most of the "heat" comes from your refusal to accept that > > many active developers are against it. > > Technical arguments ? > Yes, several people had technical arguments, I remember Tomas and Remi and > some > others. But at least subjectively i felt that the bulk of people where alot > more > emotional than technical > > But let me list a few observations, from memory > First objection was because processing is done in an external library. > Then it was found out that was wrong and actually processing is done in the > new code > so the objection flipped and people demanded it to be moved into an external > library. > > If you object to pink and want blue and when you find out its actually blue > you have > to be happy and become a supporter but what happened was the opposit, the > objection > was simply adjusted to object to whatever was the case and demand whatever > was not. > > Ok so thats at least one developers "Technical objection" down here, maybe > more > i dont know if anyone else expressed that same initial objection. but lets > move on > > In all cases we prefer not to have external dependancies, this is the > Technical position of FFmpeg > no, there is no technical argument in this. > Also personal preferrances of people is not a technical argument. Noone > explained why a > avdevice module with more external depandancies would be ok but a avdevice > module with > fewer external depandancies was not. <-- This last sentance is a technical > argument > I could go as far as call this a proof by contradiction. > > If people are happy with a avdevice module and FFmpeg prefers fewer external > dependancies > then my suggestion of first starting with a plain simple self contained > avdevice/avformat > module, would have to be fine too. > We can always move this to an external library once there is a technical > reason for that > like for example some other software wants to use it > > About the attack/rallying/compaign stuff. Ill keep it very brief as its not > useful i think. > Also this is my own personal and subjective view. In fact the whole mail is > There was alot of (negative) emotion from 1-2 people about SDR. This emotion > was what spread > slash rallied other developers. That came before any technical arguments. > Now people have picked their flag and march to war. > > Everyone will deny it, same as every patriot will fight to the death for the > colors of > the flag of the country and religion they where born into. > > My claim, sorry to be stubborn, is that had this started a slight bit > different there > would be little opposition to SDR. Iam not denying that now there are several > people > against it.
These are largely unfalsifiable claims, so I don't see how they can productively contribute to this discussion. But dismissing people's concerns as "patriotic" or "religious" isn't helping your case IMO. -- Anton Khirnov _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
