Hi folks,

unfortunately the latest escalation on the user mailing list [1][2][3][4] let's 
me think that it is necessary to emphasize some things and update the mind of 
many of us.

A) We have imposed upon us our Code of Conduct [5]. We ask everyone to (read and) follow 
that in our Mailing list "Rules and Etiquette" [6]. Thanks to Carl Zwanzig to 
recently point that out as well. It is not optional for everyone on this list to obey to 
these set of rules.

B) We created a community committee to look at and eventually sanction 
violations against said set of rules [7].

Admittedly, the whole creation and installment process of both of these 
happened on ffmpeg-devel as well as the ffmpeg meetings and had not been 
properly communicated/announced here on the user mailing list. Also [7] has 
been uploaded into a very suboptimal very hard to find place so that it seems 
that only the most active developers are aware it. I will send a patch to fix 
that unacceptable state as soon as I can. Not that this can be in any way an 
excuse for any of the recent escalations on the list.

The inhibition threshold for most of us not to ignore or intensify such 
malicious mails seems unfortunately rather high. Thus only today the current 
flamewar had been reported to ffmpeg-user-owner as well as to me. Thank you to 
everyone who did so!

Therefore, let me clarify the possibilities everyone on this list has to help 
this community to be a more respectful and healthy place to be involved with. 
So whenever you encounter such malicious behavior like the personal insults 
we've seen the last couple of days you should consider:

i) Not being silent about misbehavior and ask for proper behavior of the 
involved people.

        It does help many times. Especially if it is not an exception that 
people ask for respectful behavior. The community can harness itself that way.
        Another thank you to everyone who tried this during the current 
escapade!

ii) Writing to ffmpeg-user-owner _at_ ffmpeg.org and pointing to the mails you 
find offensive.

        There are currently five people receiving these mails. Your chances are 
good that you get a response and/or things happen like this mail.

iii) Writing directly to cc _at_ ffmpeg.org and ask for inspecting a specific 
incident you find to be malicious.

        You should consider to sleep over your own assessment and be convinced 
that what you want to report very clearly crosses the lines before you write to 
these very busy people.


Up to here, the above is a general remark and reminder if you wish to receive 
it as that. Although I'd rather would have reminded someone to send the full, 
uncut console output that is missing (R).

That being said, as ii) has been received today, I filed a complaint with the 
community committee about four people involved in the current flamewar for 
violation of our CoC [5]. In the next couple of days, the members of the CC [8] 
will read some mails, consolidate and maybe tell me to click some buttons.

Although I'm part of the CC myself, I will of course not be involved in this 
process as I reported this on behalf of the community.

Thank you,
Thilo


[1] https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2023-February/055974.html
[2] https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2023-February/056002.html
[3] https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2023-February/056004.html
[4] https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2023-February/055973.html

[5] https://ffmpeg.org/developer.html#Code-of-conduct
[6] https://ffmpeg.org/mailing-list-faq.html#Rules-and-Etiquette
[7] https://ffmpeg.org/doxygen/trunk/md_doc_dev_community_community.html
[8] https://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2020-July/266508.html
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