On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 9:34 AM Carl Eugen Hoyos <ceffm...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Am 02.08.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Jan Ekström <jee...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 4:29 PM Carl Eugen Hoyos <ceffm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Am Sa., 1. Aug. 2020 um 14:47 Uhr schrieb Jan Ekström <jee...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:08 PM Carl Eugen Hoyos <ceffm...@gmail.com> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Am Sa., 1. Aug. 2020 um 14:06 Uhr schrieb Jan Ekström 
> >>>>> <jee...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Additionally, the spec only mentions stereo/5.1 for direct mapping, so
> >>>>> I've kept to 5.1 since we have the capability for that one.
> >>>>
> >>>> And you still believe it would be a disadvantage if the decoder outputs
> >>>> this 5.1 mapping by default if nothing else was requested?
> >>>
> >>> Yes. API users so far have received the audio frames according to
> >>> encoded layout by default, so doing something else breaks that rule of
> >>> least surprises.
> >>>
> >>>> Is there an option to request the 5.1 mapping?
> >>>
> >>> As noted in the 0/0 cover letter, you can do it just fine with
> >>> `-channel_layout "5.1"` with ffmpeg.c. I have verified that it returns
> >>> the 5.1 channels as-is.
> >>
> >> But this does not make the decoder output 5.1 or does it?
> >>
> >> While I should probably only care about ffmpeg and ignore
> >> the library users I still wonder who can live with your approach...
> >>
> >
> > As this can be implied to be a comment regarding me not caring about
> > the API users,
>
> It was a comment about me not understanding how the average of hundreds of 
> library users will be able to use this - important - new feature.
>

They can use it like they use any other uncommon channel layout, by
using lavfi or swresample directly to remix the audio - the same
process that ffmpeg.c uses internally.

- Hendrik
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