On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 14:38, Nicolas George <geo...@nsup.org> wrote: > Manolis Stamatogiannakis (12020-07-07): > > I believe I have adequately explained that "less secure" needs to be > > enabled, not to make your Google account more secure, but to contain > > the damage from a potential compromise. > > > > Yes, "less secure" sounds a lot like marketing slang. But Gmail is not > used > > exclusively by CompSci majors :) > > I will state it another way. > > Anybody should be able to use the software of their choice to read their > e-mail. > > If a compromise around these software have a consequence beyond mail and > what is directly related to mail, then the fault is not the software's, > the fault is to whoever tied mail and other things together. > > Google has a totalitarian policy, as in they want to totally control > your web experience (the fact that the same word is used to qualify > dictatorships is not a coincidence): they make every effort so that if > you dip a toe in them, you find yourself submerged before you know it. > > It is Google's choice, and Google's responsibility, and your choice and > your responsibility if you decide to use Google totally. > > This choice should not direct the workings of a Libre Software projects > that is not under the control of Google. The choice should even less > direct the choices of other people working on the project. > > As was pointed out earlier, there are solutions. Even if Google hides > it, there are ways of accessing their walled gardens with other > applications. Even if there are not, you can decide to isolate your > accounts. (If would probably be a good idea irregardless of FFmpeg, > anyway.) > > So learn to use them, and do not demand other people to change their > (good) habits so that you can keep your (bad) habits. >
I understand your concerns, but Google has been pretty open with all its productivity SaaS offerings. So, while I would be against mandating the use of any Google products, I can't see catering for Gmail users as a valid existential threat to any open/libre project. And some quick grepping reveals that 45% of the emails in the list for 2019-2020 were from 236 unique Gmail addresses. That's an awful lot of people with bad habits to ignore. > I would offer my help in doing so, but as I explained, I do not use > Google, and therefore have no help to offer to better use it. But if you > want my help in learning powerful command-line tools, you can have it. > (And it would probably be a good investment of your time.) > > I'm a command line veteran myself, with the same weapons of choice as you (vim/zsh), but I still struggle with the ffmpeg workflow. I'd surely be interested for any command line tools that would make it easier. If you have the time to add a section to the documentation, I'm sure it would be helpful for many people. And there's also the "tools" directory for sharing any tools/scripts you created for ffmpeg development. Best regards, Manolis _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".
