yeah, i think that is one thing mandrake could really really improve.
Msec has the potential to be a really fantastic hardning script..
But as it stands now, even on servers i use level 3 and tighten up manually.

it needs a console and/or a X11 GUI..

Just something where it displays the level, and gives you a list of the msec
options so you check and uncheck specific settings. (rather then just
choosing a level.)
It could be done without changing any of its current functionality I'd
imagine.)

that would serve two benefits..

1. tells you want msec is actually doing at a given level.
2. allows you to easily stop it.. or enable it.

personally i think a console GUI'd be fine, but suspect others would prefer
X11.
and if its the latter, it could be part of control center.


rgds

Franki

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Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2003 6:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Security and permissions problems


On September 1993 plus 3591 days Praedor Atrebates wrote:

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> After I originally found that all users could see other user's home
contents,
> I tried first changing to security level 3.  Someone else mentioned I
could
> set the home permission to 700.
>
> Both methods have screwed up my system and I can't seem to get it back
even
> though I switched to security level 2.  My system is OK at the moment but
> there will come a time (how long it takes is unknown as yet) when all of a
> sudden, I cannot open konsoles, xterms, or start any app for that matter.
> The perms on my home directory will change that will 1) prevent KDE from
> working because it can't get write permissions to my home, and 2) kmail
wont
> be able to download/store email because it wont have write permission to
my
> ~/Mail directories.  I have had to twice login as root and chown
> praedor.praedor /home/praedor and set my home perm to 711, then 755.
>
> I restarted DrakConf and then went to Drakperms and set the security level
to
> 2 and made sure that /home/* was no longer editable and no longer 700 but
> nevertheless I get this repetitious problem.
>
> What security level will allow users to actually USE their home
directories,
> window managers, etc, without problems but also prevent other users from
> looking at the contents of their HOME dirs?

  Uhm...I use msec3 always, on all machines, and never have problems
  using any apps...I think you messed up the perms in drakperms in
  some way. What I *have* noticed a couple of times (not tried
  lately...this happened in the 8.x days) is that if you go from a
  higher level to a lower level of msec, some perms do get messed up
  and you have to fix them by hand before msec will start listening to
  you again. But that happened both times going from 5 to 3, and the
  problems you are referring to are not problems that I can relate to
  3 in any way.

  Vox

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