James Sparenberg wrote:
O I agree 1000%...MDK all the way. While I really like MDK9.0, I'm still quite frustrated over the networking troubles that seem to exist on the system when it comes to setting it up, getting it running, *correctly*. There don't appear to be these same problems with MDK 8.2. That goes in without a hassle and I've been known to get a server functional with 2 hours.On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 16:50, Mark Weaver wrote:Jack Coates wrote:In response to James...I've noticed the exact opposite. I'm so fed up with trying to do server with 9.0 I've vowed it will never see any more of the servers I administrate. Whether at home or at the office. 8.2, on the other hand works exceptionally as either a workstation or a server. 9.0 does just dandy as a workstation, but there appears to be a lot needing attention when it comes to the server end. Networking is at the top of the list right now.On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 22:57, James Sparenberg wrote:I've got to put in my 2 cents here. For me... 8.2 bit bad. Why, I was running i810 and i815 chipset motherboards and having all kinds of stability problems with 9.0 these boxes have all been rock solid. any funky hassles I've had have been either due to pushing the box too hard or trying to do something I shouldn't have been trying to do. Not due to a weakness in 9.0. Actually I've found it to be the most solidly tested version since 7.0. Yes there are problems with programs that run ON Linux. KDE - Gnome - etc etc. Many of these aren't so much MDK problems as just... problems. If you ever want something that will drive you nuts trying to get it to do what you want... try RH 8.0... Blue blows. JamesHeck, I haven't even touched the new distro or the new GUI -- but I do have to work on a number of RH 7.x servers, and man do I miss urpmi. I also think Mandrake RPMs are generally better put together. That is, less likely to be broken and more likely to have the configure options I wanted.
Mark
Well I will admit that Desktops are more of a concern for me than plain servers... And that with MDK it wants a heavy footprint. But I just de-commissioned (by force the hardware died) a 7.2 Mandrake box that had run without a hiccup or a breakin for over 2 years. 24-7-52 ... MDK RH or Slack... each has it's fun points. (slack is very unforgiving ) Biggest problem with RH is that it installs tooooooooo many problem rpms (telnet r services finger etc) by default. With Mandrake the hassle is for me getting it installed sans gui.(again fewer services .... fewer holes.) For Laptops....... MDK all the way... 2 identical dell boxes the other week... MDK ... installed and running in 30 minutes... RH ... 3 days and only limping. RH and MDK run neck n neck on one point ... I've got updates set up on a cron job... if it comes out I get it and an e-mail to boot. One thing though... MDK does have more options. James
RedHat 8.0 on the other hand is, without a doubt, a workstation ONLY distro. That poor bugger has been so severely crippled when it comes to administrating it as a server I can't even begin to tell ya.
More and more...Mandrake is the one and only.
Mark
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