Like the old adage about how you find the auto mechanic in the
neighborhood.... look for the worst car.  *grin*

James
 
PS.  Never refer to a doctor as a biological hacker (or a Bio
Technician).... they don't understand... (But the Nurses seem to.)

On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 10:05, Jack Coates wrote:
> Well, it's only useful within the realm of those computer things which
> are inherently non-useful, so the paradigm is safe :-)
> 
> Though mine's been quieter since I pointed out that our friend the
> construction contractor is a house hacker instead of a computer hacker,
> and his wife has to deal with holes in the floors and walls, power and
> plumbing that might not work from day to day, near-continuous painting
> projects... :-)
> 
> On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 09:39, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > Just don't tell my wife I did something useful .... She'll never believe
> > it *grin*.... Glad it worked.  
> > 
> > James
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 05:05, Mark Weaver wrote:
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> > > Mark Weaver wrote:
> > > | James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > |
> > > |> Mark
> > > |>
> > > |>   Getting this information might help you or us in troubleshooting the
> > > |> problem.
> > > |> 1.  what dm do you use kdm or gdm (kde or gnome) or somthing completely
> > > |> different.
> > > |> 2.  as root cd to /var/log/ then do
> > > |>     tail -f XFree86.0.log (yours might be 1 or 2 but for most is 0.)
> > > |>
> > > |> Then put a bunch of ++++++ or some other symbol across the screen (to
> > > |> mark what's new vs old) and try to start an x session using startx .
> > > |> Enclose this output and about the last 20 lines of what startx spits out
> > > |> when it dies.  Also look at the last few lines of /var/log/messages to
> > > |> see if it has any info.
> > > |>
> > > |> My guess to the problem is.
> > > |>
> > > |> 1.  It forgot what kind of mouse you have.
> > > |> 2.  xfs (X font server) isn't running, or is dieing immediately.
> > > |> 3.  /tmp might have lost a couple of files and this really messes things
> > > |> up.
> > > |> 4. The linux gods have decided to keep you busy over the holidays *grin*
> > > |>
> > > |>
> > > |> James
> > > |
> > > |
> > > | Awesome James... As soon as I've got all these goodies I'll post back to
> > > | the list. Thanks! :)
> > > |
> > > | Mark
> > > 
> > > James,
> > > 
> > > I figured it out. Thanks for the good tips. You got me looking in the
> > > right direction. I had forgotten that the other I had started doing
> > > updates with the update manager and had to kill the process. some of
> > > those packages were kde packages and kde got hosed. Along with most of
> > > the file ownership of my home dir.
> > > 
> > > Once I got KDE fixed the rest was a snap. All is well with the world
> > > again and I *won't* be spending the holidays Mandrakeless or scurrying
> > > about my system with a silly clueless look on my mug tryin to figure out
> > > why its broken. :)
> > > 
> > > Mark
> > > 
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> > > 
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