> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Bastille killed nfs! :-(
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 14 August 2002 10:25 am, you wrote:
> > LOL
> >
> > Sorry.. Been there, done that. I cut a server off at the 
> knees doing things
> > like that.
> > The toughest lesson I had to learn when I first got into 
> Unix many years
> > ago: "Screw the GUI", do it by hand. Then when something 
> breaks, you know
> > what it was, and how to fix it.
> >
> > vi/iptables is your friend. Don't trust your site security 
> to a GUI, it's
> > like trusting your 5 year old with a loaded 357.
> >
> > JMHO-YMMV
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > Ric Tibbetts
> > Unix Systems Admin.
> 
> Hi Ric. Yep...I'm catching on. :-)
> 
> -- 
>   

An old saying:
Computing experience is measured in the amount of data lost.

So true... So true!

In a shop I worked in a while back, they were really strict about the tools.
Any new admin coming in had to "prove themselves" before they could use the
canned tools. So you did everything by hand, until they (the Sr. Admins)
were convinced that you actually knew what you were doing. "Then" you could
use the tools. Actually, not a bad thing. At least you knew that the people
you were working with could actually handle an extreme situation if one came
up. 

For example:

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It's 2:00am, and the server is down.
You get woke up by the pager (damn, why does it always go off when "I'm" on
call?!?). You scurry into the data center to find the server a smoking hulk.
(For this example, let's pretend it's a Linux server).

You manage to get it running by booting it from a CD, but you can forget X.
You're on an ASCII terminal.
At this point, you're looking at a text screen, and the only thing mounted
are temporary filesystems that the boot process created when you booted it
from the CD. You need to find your drives, get them mounted, and make a
working environment. All that before you can even try to figure out why it
crashed in the first place.

And that slick GUI is hours away...

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GUI's are nice. But they're no substitute for knowing what's happening under
the covers. It can mean the difference between reloading a box over
something minor, or being able to get through the trial by fire above, and
save the box.


------------------------------------------------------------
Ric Tibbetts
Unix Systems Administration

The early bird may get the worm,
But the second mouse gets the cheese.


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