On Tuesday 13 August 2002 04:38 pm, you wrote: > Tibbetts, Ric wrote: > >But one does have to wonder how much Civileme's attitude will change. ;) > >In the past, we could always count on his level-headedness in defending > > some of Mandrakesofts decisions, and to point out the "good business > > sense" behind them. It has been a calming influence in many discussions > > on this list that have, at times become heated. It will be interesting to > > see if he can maintain that calm now. And if he'll be so quick to defend > > Mandrakesoft. > > > >Just some stray thoughts, from a madman... > > > >Although, I never did quite figure out how to pronounce your name! <G> > > > > > >---------------------------------------------- > >Ric Tibbetts > >Unix Systems Admin. > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > From: David Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:11 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [expert] Thanks Civileme (was Mandrake Club advocates: > >PostPositive) > > > > > >The true mark of great leadership within a company is management's ability > >to > >attract and maintain key individuals. Whatever the backdrop to the > > situation actually is, Mandrakesoft's inability to maitain its > > relationship with Civileme is > >an incredible loss both to Mandrakesoft and to us all. > > > >Best of luck to you Civileme in whatever your future holds, but one > > request: > > > >PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE THE LIST!!!!! > > > >Daniel Woods wrote: > > Well, as much as I may have helped the company, in producing product the > essential folks are Guillaume Cottenceau, Warly, Damien Krotkine, Pixel, > David Baudens, Fred Lepied, Juan Quintela, Francois Pons, Fred Krozat, > Daouda Lo and a few others. I agree with their evaluation as to who > could be supported. > > And I am not exactly gone. I'll be on list and I will be volunteering > some time to MandrakeExpert every week. As for defending Mandrakesoft, > as long as they continue to carry the banner of free software, I won't > have any problem with that. This is kind of an emergency measure on > their part to keep enough cash to allow the direct sales of PCs and > other items to kick in additional revenue--run out of cash and the doors > close forever... Jacques Le Marois committed to hiring all the layoffs > back when the situation bears fruit. > > I am more concerned with the folks who want to make mandrakesoft a > company like SuSE. SuSE would be history except that IBM and Intel > bailed them out last year for like $45 million. Yet the same folks on > the list want Mandrakesoft to shift to a SuSE model? Horsefeathers and > Applesauce! United Linux is three companies who cannot make it because > their restrictive policies hurt them and one which is(was?) a free > software company--the fact is the big sellers now are the ones that are > basically free software--RH and Mandrake. That is the market and no > amount of business philosophy is going to alter market realities nor is > it going to alter the true assets of a free software company which does > not reside in intellectual property. > > Let us suppose that someone decides to close up the source and make the > copyright proprietary -- then the PREVIOUS release has GPL stuff people > can develop in another direction... How long do you think it would take > for someone else to do to Mandrake what Mandrake did to RedHat? I can > practically guarantee it would be less than a month. > > Civileme
Gee, and that sounds to me like a guarantee with teeth...
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