Praedor,
  This is not rubbing your nose in it, but in a way I agree.  That's why I
use Windowmaker.  It starts faster than KDE, thanks to Mandrake I have
menu access to all the KDE apps.  Finally I don't have to worry about a
lot of the problems I've seen here.  I've had simular experience with ICE
and Fvwm2, although in the end my pref was Windowmaker.  I just like the
fact that it starts now... not later.

James

PS Crossover runs fine.

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 06:45:35 -0700
Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday 04 February 2002 06:42 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> > On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:55:27 -0700, Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > I downloaded and installed the crossover plugin.  The only problem I
am
> > > having is no sound.  The only plugin I installed was the Quicktime
> > > plugin. It starts OK but there is no sound whatsoever.
> > >
> > > Please don't tell me it wont play properly with the retarded arts?
> >
> > It's supposed to work with arts. It works fine for me with GNOME and
EsounD
> > -- I haven't tried arts. Try it in different browsers. It works best
in
> > Netscape and Mozilla (or Galeon). Konqueror support is flaky at
present.
> 
> Gah!  This whole ordeal is THIS close to putting me off KDE forever.    
> First, artsd dies on startup every single time I login to KDE.  I have
to 
> restart it manually, at which point it works for a little while but then
I 
> get a g0dd@mn CPU overload message and it dies again.  Second, if I
start 
> quicktime, it works for a second but then hard freezes.  
> 
> This is sick and wrong.  Arts has been and apparently remains broken. 
It 
> doesn't play well with others, has trouble doing what it is supposed to
do 
> and releasing the sound device to other (non KDE) apps.  
> 
> Is it possible to get esound to work instead of artsd in KDE?  
> 
> praedor
> 
> 

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