I take that back, files starting with 2 dots would still be hidded. The only 
way is to do it is:

    echo .[^.]* ..[^.]* ...* *

Try it. Create these files

>.bozo
>..bozo
>...bozo
>....bozo


and you will see that displays them all, but does not display . and ..
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