* Casey Allen Shobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-18 20:30:54 +0000]:

> > And it's also extremely long.  I often do things like "foo --help
> > 2>&1|grep something" in order to find the option I'm looking for (ie. i
> > might like to do "exim --help 2>&1|grep queue" to find out all the
> > options to manipulate the queue).
> 
> PAGER=cat man exim | grep whatever.
> 
> Or simply /whatever if you use a PAGER such as less, and then you have 
> context.

While that is true, it's also not quick... some of those paragraphs are
pretty large.  =)  Instead of the three paragraphs I see for -bf, I'd
like to see:

  -bf [filename]    run exim in filter testing mode with filter file [filename]

Something like that is much easier to grep.  I mean, obviously, this
output won't replace the manpage, and would be more of a summary type
thing than anything else, but I can see it being very handy for things
like unfreezing the queue, etc.

> > The fact that all exim tells me is "options and/or arguments control
> > what it does when it is called" is... well... painfully obvious without
> > being helpful at all.
> 
> Would you really want hundreds of lines of --help output?  Some of the Gentoo 
> portage commands do this, and I find it irritating.  Simple fact is, exim has 
> many many options.

I don't think it would be hundreds of lines.

Now I feel challenged, however.... =)  I'm going to patch exim to do
this and see how big it really is.

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