thanks Noorain for the examples really grateful, however, i noticed that
you still have to use  COUNTIF($O$29:$O$44,"<="&O29)  in other to be able
to sort,ie the sumproduct etc are all dependent on it.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE SHEET I AM WORKING IN IS THAT IT DOESNT BEGIN WITH 1
IF I USE  THE COUNTIF FORMULA, kindly look thru the sheet i attached column
O and you fill understand what i am driving at.


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:01 PM, hilary lomotey <resp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Dave, but its not working, could you kindly do it in the sheet and
> send back? thnks
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:36 PM, David Grugeon <da...@grugeon.com.au>wrote:
>
>> Hi Hilary
>>
>> Use the SMALL function starting with 1 and increasing it each time.
>>
>>
>> On 8 June 2012 23:25, hilary lomotey <resp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Experts
>>>
>>> i am trying to sort alphabetically with a formula in the attached sheet
>>> in column "O", i tried using COUNTIF($O$29:$O$44,"<="&O29) to get the first
>>> number and the rank it with either index and match or vlookup. the problem
>>> is that when i use COUNTIF($O$29:$O$44,"<="&O29), the result doesnt begin
>>> from 1, and i dont know what dynamic figure to deduct from make it start
>>> from one. pls assist with the right approach
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