On Fri, 2021-07-09 at 11:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > > 
> > > I tend to just click twice on the read/unread indicator at the
> > > left -
> > > the first click marks it unread, which clears the delete, then
> > > the
> > > second marks it read again. Damn sight easier than navigating
> > > menus!
> > 
> > That won´t work unless you set "Show Deleted Messages" and don´t
> > use a
> > real Trash folder.
> > 
> > I do have "Show Deleted Messages", yet if I delete a message it
> > disappears from the list a second or two later (not instantly).
> > This is
> > on a Gmail account where "Use a Real Folder for Deleted Messages"
> > is
> > also set - the Trash being on the Gmail server.
> 
> Ah yes, I forgot you use Gmail - it has it's own ideas about what
> should happen because of the "labels" = "IMAP folders" thing.
> 
> > 
> > IOW "Show Deleted Messages" doesn't actually mean what it says
> > unless
> > certain conditions are met, and undeleting a message involves
> > visiting
> > the Trash folder manually and restoring it from there.
> > 
> The deleted message behaviour revolves around the IMAP flags - for a
> message to show in the list it actually has to be in the folder (i.e.
> not moved to a real trash) and if the message has the Deleted flag
> set
> it will either not be shown or shown with a line through. So
> presumably
> Gmail interprets the "Set Deleted Flag" IMAP operation as being
> "Label
> as Trash" and so only shows the message in the Trash folder.
> 
> (BTW, I realise you probably know this, but it might help someone who
> doesn't)

Indeed. As I'm far from the only one who uses Gmail, I think an
"undelete" key would be useful. I've never used Exchange but perhaps it
would also be useful there for non-IMAP accounts, I don't know.

poc

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