On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 07:43 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 20:21 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage via
> evolution-
> list wrote:
> > Every time I connect to a different folder, set a filter, or click
> > on send/receive, there's a 24-26 second pause before the result is
> > displayed
> 
>       Hi,
> does the same happen when you open the menu System->Preferences->Look
> and Feel->Popup Notifications and click on "Preview" there? If so,
> then
> I guess you have installed more than just MATE desktop in the system,
> which would mean you face:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490959
> The comment #1 contains a workaround, apart of uninstalling the other
> desktop environment.

Yes, I get the same long pause when I click on the Preview button.


> If it's not it, then I guess you can still log into a text
> terminal(for example Ctrl+Alt+F3 , of other Fn key), where you can
> capturebacktrace of frozen evolution, to see what it is trying to do.
> Thatwould be done ideally with debuginfo packages at least for
> evolution-data-server and evolution installed, but maybe as a starter
> it can bedone even without it. The command to use is:
>    $ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" -pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt
> Please check the bt.txt for any private information, like
> passwords,email address, server addresses,... I usually search for
> "pass" atleast (quotes for clarity only).
> To return back to the graphical interface use Alt+F1 or Alt+F2 or
> somesuch, your session can be on one of those consoles.
> > Jan 15 23:02:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed
> > to
> > get application states:
> > GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get
> > window
> > list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
> > org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with
> > the
> > G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
> 
> Heh, this is funny. So xdg-desktop-por... (possibly xdg-desktop-
> portal-gtk) finally works only under GNOME Shell and nowhere else, or
> someparts of it. That's an interesting news to me. (I've no intention
> tostart a flame war here, it's just funny.)
>       Bye,    Milan
Milan,


My system was originally installed with a F29 MATE spin ISO, then
upgraded to F30 and F31 with dnf. I have never consciously installed
any other desktop. Here's the contents of /usr/share/dbus-1/services/.
The MATE stuff is bolded.


# ls -lr total 720-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   93 Jan  7 08:01
ca.desrt.dconf-editor.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   68 Sep 10 02:29
ca.desrt.dconf.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   97 Jul 24 15:09
certmonger.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  105 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.LastoreSessionHelper.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   84
Jun  5  2019 com.deepin.ScreenSaver.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   92
Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.CursorHelper.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   81 Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.Graphic.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   94 Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.LunarCalendar.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root   83 Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.Pinyin.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root  101 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.api.XEventMonitor.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root  101 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.daemon.Appearance.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   96 Aug 10
04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Audio.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  100 Aug
10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Bluetooth.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   98 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Fprintd.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  103 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.InputDevices.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root  101 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.daemon.Keybinding.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   97 Aug 10
04:07 com.deepin.daemon.LangSelector.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   95 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Mime.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   99 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Miracast.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root   98 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Network.service-rw-r--r
--. 1 root root   96 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Power.service-rw-r-
-r--. 1 root root   85 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Search.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root  105 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.daemon.SessionWatcher.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   95
Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.SoundEffect.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  101 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.SystemInfo.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root   99 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Timedate.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root   95 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Zone.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root   83 Jul 16  2019
com.deepin.dde.ControlCenter.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   93 Jul
16  2019 com.deepin.dde.MemoryWarningDialog.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   89 Aug 10 03:42 com.deepin.dde.Notification.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  101 Aug 10 03:42 com.deepin.dde.WarningDialog.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root   99 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.dde.daemon.Dock.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  103 Aug 10
04:07 com.deepin.dde.daemon.Launcher.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   91 Aug 10 03:42 com.deepin.dde.freedesktop.Notification.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root   69 Jul 16  2019
com.deepin.dde.lockFront.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   80 Aug 10
03:42 com.deepin.dde.osd.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   77 Jul
16  2019 com.deepin.dde.shutdownFront.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   88 Aug 10 03:42 com.deepin.dde.welcome.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   64 Dec 23 00:51 com.deepin.wm.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  111 Jul 24 20:35 com.feralinteractive.GameMode.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root   89 Jul 24 17:11 com.intel.dleyna-renderer.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root   86 Jul 24 17:11 com.intel.dleyna-server.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root   82 Jul 25 02:34 gnome-vfs-daemon.service-rw-r-
-r--. 1 root root   79 Dec 24 23:14 imsettings-daemon.service-rw-r--r
--. 1 root root  111 Sep  9 13:38 org.a11y.Bus.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  118 Jul 24 14:04 org.ayatana.bamf.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   88 Jul 24 17:13 org.baseurl.DnfSession.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   95 Dec 24  2012 org.bluez.obex.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   60 Jul 24 19:04 org.exaile.Exaile.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   86 Nov  1 10:18 org.fedoraproject.Config.Printing.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root  120 Jul 24 15:46
org.freedesktop.ColorHelper.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   96 Nov 27
08:19 org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  132
Nov  2 11:34 org.freedesktop.Flatpak.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  100 Dec 26 04:49 org.freedesktop.IBus.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  100 Nov 25 04:22 org.freedesktop.PackageKit.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root 3369 Nov 29 04:17
org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Miner.Extract.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root
4847 Nov 29 04:17 org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Miner.Files.service-rw-r--r-
-. 1 root root 4220 Nov 29 04:17
org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Miner.RSS.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  133
Nov 29 04:17 org.freedesktop.Tracker1.Writeback.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  115 Nov 29 04:14 org.freedesktop.Tracker1.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root  148 Sep 16 10:18
org.freedesktop.impl.portal.PermissionStore.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  148 Aug 12 12:33 org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gtk.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root   94 Sep 21 14:02
org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  131
Sep 16 10:18 org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  135 Sep 16 10:18 org.freedesktop.portal.Documents.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root  123 Nov  2 11:34
org.freedesktop.portal.Flatpak.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   79 Dec
26 04:48 org.freedesktop.portal.IBus.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  102 Oct 16 07:07 org.freedesktop.problems.applet.service-rw-r--r-
-. 1 root root  103 Nov 18 02:51 org.freedesktop.reportd.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root  122 Sep 30 04:13 org.freedesktop.secrets.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root   83 Nov 27 09:04
org.gnome.ArchiveManager1.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   97 Jan  6
12:15 org.gnome.Boxes.SearchProvider.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   86 Jan  6 12:15 org.gnome.Boxes.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  108 Oct  7 03:33 org.gnome.Calculator.SearchProvider.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root   92 Oct 10 16:27 org.gnome.Calendar.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root  136 Jul 25 02:08
org.gnome.Characters.BackgroundService.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   96 Jul 25 02:08 org.gnome.Characters.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   82 Sep 10 01:41 org.gnome.Cheese.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  104 Jul 24 15:15 org.gnome.ChromeGnomeShell.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  104 Jan  7 06:57 org.gnome.Contacts.SearchProvider.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root   92 Jan  7 06:57 org.gnome.Contacts.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root  114 Nov 27 10:19
org.gnome.ControlCenter.SearchProvider.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   80 Nov 27 10:19 org.gnome.ControlCenter.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root   84 Sep  9 09:12 org.gnome.Devhelp.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   92 Sep  9 02:13 org.gnome.DiskUtility.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   78 Nov 27 09:04 org.gnome.FileRoller.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   64 Jul 24 10:54 org.gnome.GConf.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   74 Nov 27 09:51 org.gnome.Gnote.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   79 Oct 15 16:49 org.gnome.Identity.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   84 Sep 10 01:44 org.gnome.Logs.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  101 Jan  7 06:45 org.gnome.Maps.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   86 Nov 27 08:19 org.gnome.Nautilus.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   95 Sep 10 09:40 org.gnome.NautilusPreviewer.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root   75 Oct 15 16:49 org.gnome.OnlineAccounts.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root   90 Sep 11 10:56 org.gnome.OnlineMiners.Facebook.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root   86 Sep 11 10:56
org.gnome.OnlineMiners.Flickr.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   84 Sep
11 10:56 org.gnome.OnlineMiners.GData.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   97 Sep 11 10:56 org.gnome.OnlineMiners.MediaServer.service-rw-r-
-r--. 1 root root   90 Sep 11 10:56
org.gnome.OnlineMiners.Owncloud.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   80 Sep
11 10:56 org.gnome.OnlineMiners.Zpj.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   88
Sep 11 10:55 org.gnome.Photos.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   66
Jan  5 09:21 org.gnome.Rhythmbox3.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   87
Jul 27 01:54 org.gnome.Rygel1.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   96 Oct
14 10:30 org.gnome.Screenshot.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   98
Jan  5 07:14 org.gnome.Shell.CalendarServer.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   98 Jan  5 07:14 org.gnome.Shell.HotplugSniffer.service-rw-r--r
--. 1 root root   94 Jan  5 07:14 org.gnome.Shell.PortalHelper.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root   92 Nov 25 04:22 org.gnome.Software.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root  125 Oct 14 07:23 org.gnome.Terminal.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root   80 Oct  7 02:52 org.gnome.Totem.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root  127 Sep 25 00:03
org.gnome.Weather.BackgroundService.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  114
Sep 25 00:03 org.gnome.Weather.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   82
Sep  9 14:33 org.gnome.baobab.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   88
Sep  9 07:31 org.gnome.clocks.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   71 Nov
27 09:01 org.gnome.evince.Daemon.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  167
Jan  7 05:10 org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root  157 Jan  7 05:10
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Calendar.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  154 Jan  7 05:10 org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root  155 Jan  7 05:10
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.UserPrompter.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   98 Sep 15 01:49 org.gnome.font-viewer.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   80 Nov 27 07:54 org.gnome.gedit.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   86 Oct 14 12:43 org.gnome.keyring.PrivatePrompter.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root   85 Oct 14 12:43
org.gnome.keyring.SystemPrompter.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  116
Sep 30 04:13 org.gnome.keyring.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   98
Jan  7 07:00 org.gnome.seahorse.Application.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   85 Jul 25 15:19 org.gnome.seahorse.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  115 Jan  7 06:32 org.gtk.GLib.PACRunner.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  139 Nov 27 08:14 org.gtk.vfs.AfcVolumeMonitor.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root   99 Nov 27 08:14 org.gtk.vfs.Daemon.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  151 Nov 27 08:14 org.gtk.vfs.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root  139 Nov 27 08:14
org.gtk.vfs.GoaVolumeMonitor.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  139 Nov 27
08:14 org.gtk.vfs.MTPVolumeMonitor.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  112
Nov 27 08:14 org.gtk.vfs.Metadata.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  151
Nov 27 08:14 org.gtk.vfs.UDisks2VolumeMonitor.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   63 Jul 25 10:58 org.hexchat.service.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   61 Nov 12 13:56 org.kde.kcookiejar5.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   55 Nov 13 10:30 org.kde.kded5.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   70 Nov 12 12:19 org.kde.kglobalaccel.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   63 Nov 12 13:56 org.kde.kiod5.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   66 Nov 12 13:56 org.kde.kioexecd.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   69 Jul 25 14:08 org.kde.kmtp.daemon.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   71 Nov 12 13:56 org.kde.kpasswdserver.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   64 Nov 12 13:56 org.kde.kssld5.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   63 Nov 12 12:32 org.kde.kwalletd5.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   71 Jul 25 18:18 org.libvirt.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   73
Sep 18 09:59 org.mate.Engrampa.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   76 Sep
22 04:51 org.mate.PowerManager.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   85 Sep
22 05:02 org.mate.ScreenSaver.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   84 Sep
23 02:45 org.mate.SettingsDaemon.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   68
Dec  8 14:09 org.mate.atril.Daemon.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   89
Dec 24 05:59 org.mate.freedesktop.FileManager1.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  123 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.AccessxStatusAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  112 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.BattstatAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  108 Sep 22 04:51
org.mate.panel.applet.BrightnessAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  115 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.CPUFreqAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  119 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.CharpickerAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  104 Sep 21 15:12
org.mate.panel.applet.ClockAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  110 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.CommandAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  108 Sep 24 06:41
org.mate.panel.applet.DictionaryAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  121 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.DriveMountAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  102 Sep 21 15:13 org.mate.panel.applet.FishAppletFactory.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root  111 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.GeyesAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  106 Sep 20 13:01 org.mate.panel.applet.GvcAppletFactory.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root  102 Sep 22 04:51
org.mate.panel.applet.InhibitAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  102 Mar 25  2019
org.mate.panel.applet.MateMenuAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  118 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.MateWeatherAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  119 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.MultiLoadAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  117 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.NetspeedAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  127 Sep 21 15:13
org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root  102 Jul 25 20:26
org.mate.panel.applet.SensorsAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   98 Jul 25 20:24 org.mate.panel.applet.SoftupdApplet.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root  118 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.StickyNotesAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  106 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.TimerAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  105 Sep 19 14:00
org.mate.panel.applet.TrashAppletFactory.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   99 Sep 21 15:13 org.mate.panel.applet.WnckletFactory.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root  770 Feb 15  2017 org.onboard.Onboard.service-rw-r-
-r--. 1 root root   74 Aug 12 16:36 org.xfce.Xfconf.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root   80 Aug 27 16:34 sealert.service


I'm not sure I see a solution here, unless you are suggesting I use
dnfdragorra to delete all non-MATE desktops. That sounds rather
extreme, and possibly destructive.


--Doc Savage
    Fairview Heights, IL
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