Guys,

Unless you want to discuss it in the context of Evolution, I'd suggest
you to find a better venue to heat up the systemd debate.

This is not the right place to have a flame war about init systems
and/or session management daemons, not even in the context of GNOME.

So I will politely suggest that you guys move this discussion somewhere
else.

Thanks.


On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 21:28 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 20:16 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yes, I can by supporting something that can be better in due time, and
> > > that's OpenRC, why don't you update yourself on that piece of software.
> > > (it does not use cgroups, that's one advantage for example)
> > 
> > According to the various websites, it does use cgroups ...
> 
> Maybe I'm not aware of that, I'm following a developer and he is using
> ptrace, not cgroups.
> 
> > My take on these things is that yes, something like systemd is
> > different, there is a learning curve, but it's there and I'll get used
> > to it eventually - it's like Gnome 3, it was different, I bit the bullet
> > and got on with using it, now I get incredibly frustrated using anything
> > else and I find the Gnome 2 systems I use feel quite "old".
> 
> Well gnome3 has become something I don't want to use any longer,
> unfortunately. Maybe the developers should listen more to the users?
> I've been using the fallback mode but that one seems to be degraded
> too. (never liked the 3D requirements, GUI awkward stuff, why not
> having a silent desktop??)
> 
> > But this is Linux we're talking about.  Nothing is set in stone.  You
> > are right that you should be supporting a system that you think is
> > better, that's what open systems are all about.  It is not for me or
> > anyone else to say "you are wrong", equally, it's not for you to say
> > that I or RedHat or Canonical are wrong.  They are decisions, time will
> > tell which path gets the greatest traction.
> > 
> > And this is way far off topic for the Evolution list!
> 
> Agreed!
> 
> 
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Alberto Ruiz
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