On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 14:24 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 15:02 +0930, Wayne Sierke wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 23:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > > First I went to the admin page at
> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/options/evolution-list (with the idea of
> > > checking if I'd turned off delivery and forgotten about it). Since I had
> > > naturally forgotten my list password, I requested a new copy. Nothing
> > > happened.
> > 
> > Just in case you've forgotten, your original password was included in
> > the "Welcome" message that was sent when you subscribed.
> > Wayne
> 
> That was many years ago and is long gone.
> 
> I eventually got a reply from one of the admins, to the effect that he
> couldn't find me on the members list. He suggested I resubscribe. I
> attempted to do so, but the subscription was rejected on the grounds
> that I was already subscribed!

Your subscription request was rejected because i went ahead and added
you to the list before you tried to subscribe. Somehow my replies are
not getting delivered in time. The initial mail where i replied to you,
delivered to you after 4 days and you thought nobody (admin) cared about
your email.

> 
> I reported all this to the admin. He never replied but after a day or
> two I suddenly started getting list traffic.

I did reply you but mail was bounced with below error

The message that you sent was undeliverable to the following: 

p...@usb.ve (450 <p...@usb.ve>: Recipient address rejected: 
Greylisted for 5 minutes)

>  I then tried the password
> reminder again and this time it worked.
> 
> My assumption is that something was wrong with the Mailman database and
> it is now fixed, but that's mere supposition on my part.
> 
> > P.S. This problem is another example of why sending a "courtesy copy" to
> > the participants of a discussion is the superior strategy.
> 
> I don't think I want to go there again :-)
> 
> poc
> 
> 


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23:03:08 -0600
Subject: Re: Subscription problem
From: Akhil Laddha <lak...@novell.com>
To: Patrick O'Callaghan <p...@usb.ve>
Cc: evolution-list-ow...@gnome.org
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:33:42 +0530
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Hi Patrick,

On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 08:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Akhil, I attempted to re-subscribe and got "Privacy Alert" back:
>=20

The previous mail where i advised you to resubscribe the list was sent
on Monday (May 30) and i don't know why was it delivered yesterday.

>=20
>         An attempt was made to subscribe your address to the mailing
>         list
>         evolution-list@gnome.org.  You are already subscribed to this
>         mailing list.
>        =20
>        =20
>         Note that the list membership is not public, so it is possible
>         that a bad
>         person was trying to probe the list for its membership.  This
>         would be a
>         privacy violation if we let them do this, but we didn't.
>        =20
>        =20
>         If you submitted the subscription request and forgot that you
>         were already
>         subscribed to the list, then you can ignore this message.  If
>         you suspect that
>         an attempt is being made to covertly discover whether you are

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Hi Patrick,

On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 08:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Akhil, I attempted to re-subscribe and got "Privacy Alert" back:
> 

The previous mail where i advised you to resubscribe the list was sent
on Monday (May 30) and i don't know why was it delivered yesterday.

> 
>         An attempt was made to subscribe your address to the mailing
>         list
>         evolution-list@gnome.org.  You are already subscribed to this
>         mailing list.
>         
>         
>         Note that the list membership is not public, so it is possible
>         that a bad
>         person was trying to probe the list for its membership.  This
>         would be a
>         privacy violation if we let them do this, but we didn't.
>         
>         
>         If you submitted the subscription request and forgot that you
>         were already
>         subscribed to the list, then you can ignore this message.  If
>         you suspect that
>         an attempt is being made to covertly discover whether you are
>         a member of this
>         list, and you are worried about your privacy, then feel free
>         to send a message
>         to the list administrator at evolution-list-ow...@gnome.org.
> 
> This contradicts your earlier assertion that I'm not on the member's
> list. Could you please look into this? Perhaps there's a database
> problem of some sort.
> 

You received above message because after seeing your conversation on
e-l, i went ahead and added you as list member because i wasn't sure
whether you overlooked my reply or it wasn't delivered.

Once again sorry for all the confusion. I hope you will be receiving
emails properly. Please let me know if you face any problem in future, i
will contact gnome system admin.

Thanks,
Akhil

> 
> (I also note that someone on the list -- which I read via the Archives
> -- replied to my post about this and mentioned that they weren't
> getting the monthly reminder even though it's enabled for their
> account. This may indicate a deeper problem with the Mailman
> installation.)
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> poc
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan <p...@usb.ve>
> wrote:
>         Thanks Akhil, I'll do that. Clearly something bad happened
>         since I've been a member for many years as the Archives will
>         testify.
>         
>         
>         poc
>         
>         
>         
>         On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Akhil Laddha
>         <lak...@novell.com> wrote:
>                 Hi Patrick,
>                 
>                 On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 23:38 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan
>                 wrote:
>                 > Despite being a frequent contributor to the
>                 Evolution list, I've been
>                 > very busy in the last few weeks and hence didn't
>                 notice that I wasn't
>                 > receiving list traffic.
>                 >
>                 > Thinking that perhaps I had turned off delivery and
>                 forgotten about it,
>                 > I attempted to log into the Mailman settings page,
>                 but couldn't remember
>                 > my password.
>                 >
>                 > I then tried to have the password sent to my address
>                 (p...@usb.ve) but
>                 > nothing ever arrived. I tried again, with the same
>                 result.
>                 >
>                 > I would appreciate it if you could simply verify
>                 that my address is
>                 > still listed and that delivery has not been turned
>                 off. If that is the
>                 > case, the problem must be at my end. Note that I can
>                 still post to the
>                 > list.
>                 >
>                 
>                 
>                 I couldn't find your name / email in subscribed
>                 members' list. You may
>                 have to subscribe to the list again.
>                 
>                 Sorry for the inconvenience.
>                 
>                 Regards,
>                 Akhil
>                 
>                 
>                 > Please acknowledge and copy to pocallag...@gmail.com
>                 as a precaution.
>                 >
>                 > Thanks for your attention.
>                 >
>                 > poc
>                 >
>                 
>                 
>         
>         
> 
> 

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