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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM, <evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org> wrote: > Send Evolution-list mailing list submissions to > evolution-l...@gnome.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > evolution-list-ow...@gnome.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Evolution-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: scalabilty issues resolved in next major release > (2.6.28)? (Brian J. Murrell) > 2. Re: Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend (Matthew Barnes) > 3. Evolution-Backup after configuration (Allen Meyers) > 4. Re: Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend (Matthew Barnes) > 5. Re: Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend (Reid Thompson) > 6. Re: scalabilty issues resolved in next major release > (2.6.28)? (Chenthill) > 7. Re: Evolution-Backup after configuration (Patrick O'Callaghan) > 8. Re: Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend (Matthew Barnes) > 9. Copying POP to IMAP troubles (Philippe LeCavalier) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:59:19 -0400 > From: "Brian J. Murrell" <br...@interlinx.bc.ca> > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] scalabilty issues resolved in next major > release (2.6.28)? > Message-ID: <1251374359.32281.937.ca...@pc.interlinx.bc.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 00:49 +0930, Wayne Sierke wrote: >> >> You don't happen to be using a 'Sender or Recipients' condition in your >> problematic vfolders, do you? > > Nope. They are just "aggretation" folders so that I don't have to poll > a few dozen rss feeds/mailboxes/newsgroups for new items. > > b. > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 197 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part > URL: > <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/attachments/20090827/6fab3a03/attachment.bin> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:11:46 -0400 > From: Matthew Barnes <mbar...@redhat.com> > To: Art Alexion <a...@rhd.org> > Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend > Message-ID: <1251375106.9344.25.ca...@localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 07:32 -0400, Art Alexion wrote: >> From reading your article, it appears that the major difference for end >> users will be that developers will be better able to fix bugs. > > I hope so. And it will let us add some nice enhancements that we've > been blocked on for years. Editable menu shortcuts will finally work, > for example. An editable toolbar is now feasible... > >> Will there also be performance gains? > > I don't anticipate any noticeable change. Most of the affected code is > just internal architecture and user interface stuff, neither of which > are performance-critical. The performance-critical stuff lives in the > Evolution-Data-Server package, for the most part. > > Matthew Barnes > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:42:19 -0500 > From: Allen Meyers <texas.che...@gmail.com> > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: [Evolution] Evolution-Backup after configuration > Message-ID: > <c9e554c70908270542o363e2c02med49673334694...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I had occasion to have to reinstall Lenny but could not locate my USB > stick that had my backup so I configured without it. > I apparently was not thinking about how large my address book was. > I now have the backup file. > So is there a way now using the backup to install my contacts. > > Thanks > > > Allen Meyers > texas.che...@gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:43:51 -0400 > From: Matthew Barnes <mbar...@redhat.com> > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend > Message-ID: <1251377031.9344.30.ca...@localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 07:57 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: >> Well, this is not the only possible difference for end users. If >> developers of extensions (i.e. evolution-rss, evolution-jescs, etc.) >> don't jump on the bandwagon before the GA release of evolution sans >> bonobo, some users will be missing functionality. :-( > > True. I'll be helping them out as much as possible. I think most of > the extension authors are aware that drastic changes are coming, so > we're not blindsiding anyone. > > Matthew Barnes > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:45:55 -0400 > From: Reid Thompson <reid.thomp...@ateb.com> > Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend > Message-ID: <1251377155.30088.10.ca...@raker.ateb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 07:57 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: >> > the major difference for end users will be that developers will be >> better able to fix bugs. > > will MAPI be building straight out of the evo tree? > will it still be dependent upon unreleased SAMBA 4? > Boils down to two concerns, will I still be able to "easily" build from > HEAD and still be able to access MS Exchange... > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:03:16 +0530 > From: Chenthill <pchenth...@novell.com> > To: "Brian J. Murrell" <br...@interlinx.bc.ca> > Cc: "evolution-list@gnome.org" <evolution-list@gnome.org> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] scalabilty issues resolved in next major > release (2.6.28)? > Message-ID: <1251379996.6372.42.ca...@linux-adcj> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 08:02 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: >> On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 21:53 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> > >> > Your BZ report talks about issues with large newsgroups. >> >> Indeed. >> >> > Are you seeing >> > the same with large mail folders? >> >> I don't have any/enough mail folders that compete with the quantity/size >> of newsgroups. >> >> > I have one IMAP folder with over >> > 60,000 messages in it and I don't see any sluggishness (maybe a few >> > seconds on startup), >> >> That's not surprising then. Not that I trust the message counts much >> anymore (since the sqlite migration fiasco), but the vfolder that >> aggregates all of my newsgroups says there are 418389 messages in it >> with 418344 unread (i.e. only 5 unread messages -- yeah right). However >> I know the difference between read and unread messages is in reality >> much much greater than that. Case in point for not trusting the message >> count numbers any more. But I digress on to yet another bug. >> >> Performance in an individual (real) folder is great. Switching from >> message to message is quick. It's in vfolders which represent a large >> aggregation where the message-to-message performance is sluggish, and of >> course, as I have said, startup times after a crash (which is still too >> frequent an occurrence unfortunately) is on the order of close to 10 >> minutes if not more and when I strace it, it's all reads/writes to the >> sqlite db(s). >> >> > but I don't use Evo for newsgroups. >> >> You should try it sometime if you want to see the scaling problems. >> >> I use gmane and nntp for mailing lists instead of getting the mail >> delivered here. Doing that really highlights the scaling problems. >> >> IMHO, the evo developers (especially the ones responsible for its >> scalability) should be *required* to use gmane for all of their mailing >> lists. Nothing like having to eat your own dogfood to making it taste >> good. > Some of the vfolder issues and sqlite summary issues have been covered > at, > http://www.go-evolution.org/Bugzilla_Topics#evolution.5Bdisk-summary.5D > > They are part of the road-map http://www.go-evolution.org/Evo2.28 and > is being worked upon. But am not sure how many would be fixed for 2.28. > > Thanks, Chenthill. >> >> b. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Evolution-list mailing list >> Evolution-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:50:03 -0430 > From: Patrick O'Callaghan <p...@usb.ve> > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution-Backup after configuration > Message-ID: <1251382803.16915.32.ca...@bree.homelinux.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 07:42 -0500, Allen Meyers wrote: >> I had occasion to have to reinstall Lenny but could not locate my USB >> stick that had my backup so I configured without it. >> I apparently was not thinking about how large my address book was. >> I now have the backup file. >> So is there a way now using the backup to install my contacts. > > Assuming that by "backup" you mean the internal Evo function > File->Backup Settings, then it shouldn't be difficult. The backup file > is just a tar.gz archive, so you can use standard tools to extract any > part of it you want. Or just extract the whole thing to a temporary > directory and move the Contacts parts into place. > > Be sure to halt Evo completely ("evolution --force-shutdown") before > touching the .evolution subtree. > > poc > Patrick: I do indeed appreciate your speedy reply and what will be a huge time saver to me, BUT at 77 my comprehension is not what it once was so would you be so kind as to give me a one, two three. Yes it is the evolution-backup file you indicated. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:30:45 -0400 > From: Matthew Barnes <mbar...@redhat.com> > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend > Message-ID: <1251383445.506.5.ca...@dhcp-100-2-219.bos.redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 08:45 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: >> will MAPI be building straight out of the evo tree? >> will it still be dependent upon unreleased SAMBA 4? > > Yes and yes. No changes to evolution-mapi. > > evolution-exchange, on the other hand, is severely broken right now > since it leans heavily on Bonobo features. > >> Boils down to two concerns, will I still be able to "easily" build from >> HEAD and still be able to access MS Exchange... > > Like I said, stay away from "master" for awhile if you need working > builds. Stick with the 2.27 codebase on the gnome-2-28 branch. > > Matthew Barnes > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:43:32 -0400 > From: Philippe LeCavalier <supp...@plecavalier.com> > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: [Evolution] Copying POP to IMAP troubles > Message-ID: <1251384212.8447.34.ca...@localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > I'm having a really hard time moving my mail from a POP local archive to > the IMAP server. Moving messages(1 or many) works fine. Moving single > folders works fine. But moving folders that contains messages OR moving > folders that contain subfolders(also containing messages) fails without > any errors. Evo creates the subfolders but never copies the messages! > I've been burnt badly by this. I've restored my mail archive from > backup(~250MB worth) and I'm trying once again to copy the archive over. > > I've tried right-clicking on the folder(to "copy") as well as drag 'n > drop(to move) and both yield the same issue -no messages in the > subfolders. This may verywell be a server-side issue...I'm just looking > for some experiences/advise on how to do this so I can move on to ACTUAL > WORK :) > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > Phil > > P.S. I realize that moving large amounts of folders/mail is prone to > fail. So I've tried toning down the amount being copied. But even with > very small amounts of mail (root folder with 10-12 email-->subfolder > with 10-12 emails) still fails to copy messages in the subfolder. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/attachments/20090827/876ab995/attachment.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: face-smile.png > Type: image/png > Size: 986 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/attachments/20090827/876ab995/attachment.png> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > > End of Evolution-list Digest, Vol 49, Issue 33 > ********************************************** > _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
