On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 16:09 +1100, Nick Jenkins wrote: > Hi all, > > A few weeks ago, I read how on this list how someone (maybe poc?) used > to post their list of Evolution bugs that annoyed them, with their bug > numbers / bugzilla links.
I think you're thinking of me. I think this is useful although I did try to limit mine to my top 5-6 "really can't use this utility properly" bugs, and also to limit them to things which are really obviously bugs, and not just "I wish Evo would work differently", where other people may disagree. In my experience the more you add to your wishlist the less people feel inclined to read it all and work on it. However, it can't hurt! > * Bug 558363 - Evolution: Appointments reminder window lost on logout + > login (reminder data loss) (Evolution) > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558363 > * Bug 558493 - Evolution: Reminders for Appointments due when the > computer is turned off are lost / never shown. (Evolution) [not sure if > this still happens in 2.24, need to check] > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558493 I find these funny, because Evo used to work exactly like this. And, people complained because after a long absence, when they started Evo they would get hundreds of popup windows announcing reminders for meetings that were long past... it entailed a lot of hunting and clicking to locate and get rid of them all and really, what was the point? Those appointments were gone; it's not like you can get them back. So, bugs were filed and Evo was changed so that it no longer did this. People were happy. But I guess not everyone :-). I agree that a better fix to the original problem would have been to have a single window with a list of reminders so that it was easy to select and dismiss them in a group, rather than having individual popup windows for every reminder. > * Bug 551470 - Evolution: do not insert "-- " (dash dash space) at the > start of signatures. (Evolution) [Marked as WONTFIX, but as mentioned > previously cannot agree with this resolution] > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551470 Speaking in general, not about this bug in particular or even about Evolution, but a dismissive attitude towards RFCs will not get you very far with FOSS software. Microsoft refugees may find this shocking ;-), but standards trump personal preferences and "the user", _every time_. There is simply no contest at all. Standards are what make the entire ecosystem of FOSS possible--even the small and "silly" ones--and as such they create an extremely high barrier. It's no longer in the realm of personal preference. Comments like "Foisting a de-facto standard on users which clashes with their corporate culture, and which they cannot turn off [...], does not seem like a winning strategy for user-satisfaction & product-adoption to me." are simply not compelling to us. Of course we would like to see the software used as widely as possible, but we aren't selling it. More users doesn't mean any more money, and "corporate culture" is not important to us, as a concept. The reality is that there is a FOSS culture, which is standards-based and has a very long history (much longer than any corporate IT history), and meeting the needs of that culture is far more important to a free software package... because without that, you have no free software. That being said, obviously we're interested in usability enhancements, and of course all things being equal we want to enable people to use the software the way _they_ want to use it--that's what FOSS is all about. I'm just warning you that trying to argue that some aspect of Evolution, or any FOSS package, should be changed to violate an RFC just because that's how it's done in "corporate culture", will not make a winning argument. _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
