HI, Excuse me if I offend somebody but I thin Evo's GUI is so ugly that every time I use it it makes me want to go back to Outlook. is there anyway to change Evo's theme or to replace that boring gray color?
Jesse On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 17:27 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send Evolution-list mailing list submissions to > evolution-list@gnome.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Evolution-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Moving to Evo from Thunderbird? (James Pifer) > 2. Re: Moving to Evo from Thunderbird? (Patrick O'Callaghan) > 3. Re: Moving to Evo from Thunderbird? (Todd Ness) > 4. Re: Moving to Evo from Thunderbird? (Chris Williams) > 5. Re: Contact CSV export (Andrew Greig) > 6. Re: Moving to Evo from Thunderbird? (Caleb Marcus) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:27:18 -0500 > From: James Pifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Moving to Evo from Thunderbird? > To: Evolution List <evolution-list@gnome.org> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > > > I can't be the only exception to this. I've been using Evo since > > it's .9x days on various flavors of Fedora Core, and recently Ubuntu. > > In all this time, I have only seen Evo crash a handful of times. My > > initial impression is that Exchange users are the ones that seem to > > suffer the most, is that the case? > > > > Admittedly, I only use Evo to check 5-7 IMAP accounts and occasionally a > > Groupwise account. I guess I just wanted to comment that there are > > cases where Evo has, and continues to be rock-solid for some users. > > > > --chris > > Evo is/was very solid for me. I've been using it for years. I still use > it now on FC7 for all my mailing lists. Only reason I moved to > Thunderbird on another machine is that it runs Vista instead of FC. > > I really only had 2 complaints about EVO. > > 1) It did not seem to handle LDAP very well. Our LDAP directory contains > several thousand entries. I believe it was limited to the 1st 1000. I > cannot confirm that, nor can I confirm the EVO version I was running. > > 2) I also connected to my corporate mail (Lotus Notes) using IMAP. When > I would delete messages they would "disappear" or become hidden on Evo, > but if I used the Notes client the messages were still in the Inbox. I > also didn't seem to be able to use Folders. Maybe there were settings > that I could have modified this behavior, but I did not see any. > > Thunderbird handles both of these situations a lot better. The trade off > I think, is that Thunderbird is a little bit slower. Good trade off for > me since now I do not have to go back periodically and cleanup my Inbox > with the Notes client. > > Don't get me wrong, I really like Evo, and if there was a stable Windows > version I might still be on it. > > My $0.02. > > James > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:37:39 -0400 > From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Moving to Evo from Thunderbird? > To: Chris Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 11:38 -0500, Chris Williams wrote: > > > That's very true on my Ubuntu system... Thunderbird is the more stable > > > of the two clients. However, I put up with it. > > > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:46 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Without wanting to start a religious war, it's been my personal > > > > experience that Evo crashes and/or hangs a lot more than TB on the same > > > > platform (many versions of Fedora using KDE). Despite this, I use Evo > > > > nearly all the time because I'm comfortable with it (maybe that's why I > > > > see more problems :-) > > > > I can't be the only exception to this. I've been using Evo since > > it's .9x days on various flavors of Fedora Core, and recently Ubuntu. > > In all this time, I have only seen Evo crash a handful of times. My > > initial impression is that Exchange users are the ones that seem to > > suffer the most, is that the case? > > Not for me. I don't have any Exchange accounts. > > > Admittedly, I only use Evo to check 5-7 IMAP accounts and occasionally a > > Groupwise account. I guess I just wanted to comment that there are > > cases where Evo has, and continues to be rock-solid for some users. > > No doubt, but in a way that's actually more worrying. i.e. Evo works for > some people most of the time and for other people not so much. Evo in > all its incarnations has had variable levels of reliability for me, on > two different machines, always using Fedora and KDE. The distro packages > have I think been more reliable than self-compiled versions, which might > mean something. Right now I'm using a self-compiled 2.12.1 on F7 with > all distro updates installed and the entire UI freezes every few seconds > when I'm typing, when changing folders, and when (apparently) contacting > the IMAP server, plus evolution-alarm-notify sometimes eats 100% of CPU > and has to be killed (I notice because I monitor my CPU temperature!). > > On a different note, my junk filters simnply do not work at all (they do > with the distro package). I've tried SA and Bogofilter and they are > never automatically activated (I'm tracking them with a log file). > > Tomorrow Fedora 8 will be released so I'll be able to upgrade and > hopefully these issues will go away, but it's annoying to try and stay > up with the latest Evo's only to find some missing funcionality for > reasons that are not clear. Before anyone asks, upgrading to the Rawhide > version means installing a large number of additional packages so I > don't care to do that, having had other stability problems with Rawhide > in the past. > > poc > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:59:15 -0700 > From: Todd Ness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Moving to Evo from Thunderbird? > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > > > Before anyone asks, upgrading to the Rawhide > > version means installing a large number of additional packages so I > > don't care to do that, having had other stability problems with Rawhide > > in the past. > > > > poc > > I think that upgrading only to find new and different problems is > un-settling at best. Also, I am not keen on the fact that evolution is > so dependent on so many other packages, gtk, libsoup, etc. and the only > convenient way to upgrade evolution is to upgrade to a newer version of > your favorite OS. This is the kind of thing that prevents Linux from > making any ground in the enterprise for regular everyday users. Way too > much change and a lack stability. When I get newer versions of Firefox > or Thunderbird I don't have to upgrade my whole OS and should not. Just > a thought don't flame me to death over this it is just a suggestion that > if evolution could stand on it's own on a Linux platform that would sure > help. > > And yes there are way more problems with the exchange accounts on > evolution than there are with IMAP or POP accounts. > Filters are flaky on exchange, the whole exchange backend process dies a > lot. whereas my POP account just keeps working and the filters work for > it as well. > > Todd > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:39:07 -0500 > From: Chris Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Moving to Evo from Thunderbird? > To: Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 13:37 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 11:38 -0500, Chris Williams wrote: > > > Admittedly, I only use Evo to check 5-7 IMAP accounts and occasionally a > > > Groupwise account. I guess I just wanted to comment that there are > > > cases where Evo has, and continues to be rock-solid for some users. > > > > No doubt, but in a way that's actually more worrying. i.e. Evo works for > > some people most of the time and for other people not so much. Evo in > > all its incarnations has had variable levels of reliability for me, on > > two different machines, always using Fedora and KDE. The distro packages > > have I think been more reliable than self-compiled versions, which might > > mean something. Right now I'm using a self-compiled 2.12.1 on F7 with > > all distro updates installed and the entire UI freezes every few seconds > > when I'm typing, when changing folders, and when (apparently) contacting > > the IMAP server, plus evolution-alarm-notify sometimes eats 100% of CPU > > and has to be killed (I notice because I monitor my CPU temperature!). > > Oh, definitely. As a (non-Evo) developer, I do value consistency and I > have to agree that I haven't always seen that with this product. I > certainly didn't meant to imply that Evo has no problems at all. In > fact, a lot of distro upgrades were solely because of bugs/quirks or > inability to upgrade because of all the Gnome dependencies. I will > agree that I probably have an extra level of stability through the use > of distro packaging. I will easily admit I went to distro-only > packaging because of many of the quirks I encountered while using the > "real" releases. > > > On a different note, my junk filters simnply do not work at all (they do > > with the distro package). I've tried SA and Bogofilter and they are > > never automatically activated (I'm tracking them with a log file). > > I see occasional problems with filters as well, and junk filtering does > seem to work sometimes while not others. Frustrating. > > > Tomorrow Fedora 8 will be released so I'll be able to upgrade and > > hopefully these issues will go away, but it's annoying to try and stay > > up with the latest Evo's only to find some missing funcionality for > > reasons that are not clear. Before anyone asks, upgrading to the Rawhide > > version means installing a large number of additional packages so I > > don't care to do that, having had other stability problems with Rawhide > > in the past. > > Good luck with the upgrade. I saw many improvements moving from > Ubuntu's 2.10 to 2.12 packages. > > --chris > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:32:04 +1100 > From: Andrew Greig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Contact CSV export > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hi, > > Caleb Marcus wrote: > >I just googled it, which I know I should have done before I posted to > >the list, and found that I can use the evolution-addressbook-export > >--forrmat=csv command to do it... but it seems to segfault after the > >first contact is exported. > >On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 20:55 -0500, Caleb Marcus wrote: > > >> Now that I've got my contacts all set up on Evolution, I'd like to > >> import them into my Gmail account. However, Evolution only seems to > >> be able to export VCard files, and Gmail requires a CSV. Without > >> importing and re-exporting it with something that supports both (like > >> Thunderbird) can I export my contacts as a CSV file to use with > >>Gmail? > > I have been following this because achieving a csv file of my > address-book is a desirable outcome. > > I tried this with Evolution open, closed and force-shutdown. Here is the > output: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > andrew]# /usr/lib/evolution/2.12/evolution-addressbook-export > --format=csv > contacts.csv > > (evolution-addressbook-export:5032): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strv_length: > assertion `str_array != NULL' failed > > (evolution-addressbook-export:5032): evolution-addressbook-tools-WARNING > **: Couldn't load addressbook NULL > [EMAIL PROTECTED] andrew]# > > The contacts.csv file is created in the working directory but of course > it is empty. > Permission denied to run as user. > > What have I missed? > > Thanks > > -- > Andrew Greig > Community Distributor > OpenOffice.org > Melbourne, Australia > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:27:13 -0500 > From: Caleb Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Moving to Evo from Thunderbird? > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've had crashes when I only used one POP account, and I'm still getting > crashes with one IMAP account... I should clarify that they're not > complete crashes per se, but times when it hangs for a while and can't > be closed without --force-shutdown. > On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 11:38 -0500, Chris Williams wrote: > > > > That's very true on my Ubuntu system... Thunderbird is the more stable > > > of the two clients. However, I put up with it. > > > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:46 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Without wanting to start a religious war, it's been my personal > > > > experience that Evo crashes and/or hangs a lot more than TB on the same > > > > platform (many versions of Fedora using KDE). Despite this, I use Evo > > > > nearly all the time because I'm comfortable with it (maybe that's why I > > > > see more problems :-) > > > > I can't be the only exception to this. I've been using Evo since > > it's .9x days on various flavors of Fedora Core, and recently Ubuntu. > > In all this time, I have only seen Evo crash a handful of times. My > > initial impression is that Exchange users are the ones that seem to > > suffer the most, is that the case? > > > > Admittedly, I only use Evo to check 5-7 IMAP accounts and occasionally a > > Groupwise account. I guess I just wanted to comment that there are > > cases where Evo has, and continues to be rock-solid for some users. > > > > --chris > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Evolution-list mailing list > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: /archives/evolution-list/attachments/20071107/a66ea539/attachment.htm > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part > Url : /archives/evolution-list/attachments/20071107/a66ea539/attachment.bin > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > > End of Evolution-list Digest, Vol 28, Issue 16 > **********************************************
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