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> >    1.  Contact CSV export (Caleb Marcus)
> >    2. Re:  Contact CSV export (Caleb Marcus)
> >    3.  Evolution and Gmail's spam filter (Caleb Marcus)
> >    4. Re:  Offline message cache encryption with    a       Master  
> > Password?
> >       (Patrick O'Callaghan)
> >    5. Re:  Offline message cache encryption with    a       Master  
> > Password?
> >       (Caleb Marcus)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:55:40 -0500
> > From: Caleb Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [Evolution] Contact CSV export
> > To: evolution-list@gnome.org
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> > Now that I've got my contacts all set up on Evolution, I'd like to
> > import them into my Gmail account. However, Evolution only seems to be
> > able to export VCard files, and Gmail requires a CSV. Without importing
> > and re-exporting it with something that supports both (like Thunderbird)
> > can I export my contacts as a CSV file to use with Gmail?
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:59:53 -0500
> > From: Caleb Marcus &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;
> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Contact CSV export
> > To: evolution-list &lt;evolution-list@gnome.org&gt;
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> > Ugh, Thunderbird doesn't support VCard... dammit. I seem to remember an
> > extension to add VCard support, though... but I'd certainly like a more
> > elegant way of doing it, Thunderbird tends to mangle things.
> > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 20:55 -0500, Caleb Marcus wrote:
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > > Now that I've got my contacts all set up on Evolution, I'd like to
> > > import them into my Gmail account. However, Evolution only seems to be
> > > able to export VCard files, and Gmail requires a CSV. Without
> > > importing and re-exporting it with something that supports both (like
> > > Thunderbird) can I export my contacts as a CSV file to use with Gmail?
> > >     
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:11:37 -0500
> > From: Caleb Marcus &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;
> > Subject: [Evolution] Evolution and Gmail's spam filter
> > To: evolution-list &lt;evolution-list@gnome.org&gt;
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> > Gmail's spam filter doesn't always catch everything, and I'd like to use
> > Evolution's SpamAssassin support to filter my inbox as well. However,
> > Evolution doesn't give me an option of what to do when a message is
> > marked or detected to be spam... it just applies its own spam label. I'd
> > like for it to move the message to Gmail's spam folder so I don't have
> > to deal with issues stemming from Gmail's interpretation of Evolution's
> > "deleted" tags, as well as other problems it has, so I'd like the
> > ability to just set it to move it to Gmail's spam folder.
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:20:57 -0400
> > From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;
> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Offline message cache encryption   with    a
> >     Master  Password?
> > To: Caleb Marcus &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;
> > Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org
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> > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 20:38 -0500, Caleb Marcus wrote:
> >   
> > 
> > > I've gotten to the point where my email address is in so many places
> > > online that I get one or two spam messages every day that Gmail
> > > doesn't catch... when I used POP, SpamAssassin would catch everything,
> > > but now that I use IMAP, I don't have spam filters applied... if I
> > > check off the spam filtering in Inbox thingy in teh account settings,
> > > will it automatically know to download the body, or will it just run
> > > SpamAssassin on an empty message body?
> > >     
> > 
> > 
> > I assume it will only download the header, which is why I suggested it.
> > If Evo junk filtering is off for the Gmail account, it won't
> > automatically run SpamAssassin for these messages and therefore won't
> > download the bodies until you decide to read or preview them. Of course
> > if you hit the Junk button I would expect Evo to download the message
> > and run SA for learning purposes
> > 
> > POP is different because the entire message will always be downloaded,
> > independantly of any filtering.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:39 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> > >     
> > > 
> > > > AFAIK, Evo caches the *headers*, unless you explicitely open the message
> > > > of course, but note that applying junk filters may also imply
> > > > downloading message bodies, since both SpamAssasin and Bogofilter do
> > > > Bayesian analisis of the message text. Since Gmail has its own junk
> > > > filtering, you might want to disable Evo junk filtering for your Gmail
> > > > account. In fact Gmail recommends this.
> > > > 
> > > > Evo has no built-in way to encrypt the cache, though I guess a plugin
> > > > could be written to do it. As others have said, you can always use other
> > > > Linux tools for filesystem encryption.
> > > > 
> > > > poc
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 22:20 -0800, Ari El wrote:
> > > >       
> > > > 
> > > > > Recently I discovered gmail's new IMAP feature. The next minute I was 
> > > > > setting
> > > > > evolution up to access my gmail account. I noticed evo's google/imap 
> > > > > account
> > > > > cached thousand of messages (some headers, some full messages), and 
> > > > > also
> > > > > found that the cache is made persistent even with me *not* selecting 
> > > > > "mark
> > > > > for offline reading". Meaning that if I close evo, then reopen, at 
> > > > > first I
> > > > > get asked for the imap server password, but even if I dont enter it, 
> > > > > I can
> > > > > see the full local cache of the imap folders and all recent message
> > > > > contents.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't like this. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is there a way to force evo to encrypt the local cache (imap account 
> > > > > and
> > > > > also the exchage account if possible), so that I get asked for a 
> > > > > password to
> > > > > open the local cache (or better, the default gnome keyring could be 
> > > > > used)?
> > > > > any hint on how to do this?
> > > > > 
> > > > > TIA
> > > > >         
> > > > 
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:23:17 -0500
> > From: Caleb Marcus &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;
> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Offline message cache encryption   with    a
> >     Master  Password?
> > To: evolution-list &lt;evolution-list@gnome.org&gt;
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> > 
> > I understand that IMAP will download only the header... what I was
> > asking is that if I enable spam filtering for the Inbox, will Evolution
> > be smart enough to download the entire message in order to check for
> > spam, or will it just not work unless I manually enable the downloading
> > of entire messages.
> > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 22:20 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 20:38 -0500, Caleb Marcus wrote:
> > >     
> > > 
> > > > I've gotten to the point where my email address is in so many places
> > > > online that I get one or two spam messages every day that Gmail
> > > > doesn't catch... when I used POP, SpamAssassin would catch everything,
> > > > but now that I use IMAP, I don't have spam filters applied... if I
> > > > check off the spam filtering in Inbox thingy in teh account settings,
> > > > will it automatically know to download the body, or will it just run
> > > > SpamAssassin on an empty message body?
> > > >       
> > > 
> > > I assume it will only download the header, which is why I suggested it.
> > > If Evo junk filtering is off for the Gmail account, it won't
> > > automatically run SpamAssassin for these messages and therefore won't
> > > download the bodies until you decide to read or preview them. Of course
> > > if you hit the Junk button I would expect Evo to download the message
> > > and run SA for learning purposes
> > > 
> > > POP is different because the entire message will always be downloaded,
> > > independantly of any filtering.
> > > 
> > > poc
> > > 
> > >     
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:39 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
> > > >       
> > > > 
> > > > > AFAIK, Evo caches the *headers*, unless you explicitely open the 
> > > > > message
> > > > > of course, but note that applying junk filters may also imply
> > > > > downloading message bodies, since both SpamAssasin and Bogofilter do
> > > > > Bayesian analisis of the message text. Since Gmail has its own junk
> > > > > filtering, you might want to disable Evo junk filtering for your Gmail
> > > > > account. In fact Gmail recommends this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Evo has no built-in way to encrypt the cache, though I guess a plugin
> > > > > could be written to do it. As others have said, you can always use 
> > > > > other
> > > > > Linux tools for filesystem encryption.
> > > > > 
> > > > > poc
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 22:20 -0800, Ari El wrote:
> > > > >         
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Recently I discovered gmail's new IMAP feature. The next minute I 
> > > > > > was setting
> > > > > > evolution up to access my gmail account. I noticed evo's 
> > > > > > google/imap account
> > > > > > cached thousand of messages (some headers, some full messages), and 
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > found that the cache is made persistent even with me *not* 
> > > > > > selecting "mark
> > > > > > for offline reading". Meaning that if I close evo, then reopen, at 
> > > > > > first I
> > > > > > get asked for the imap server password, but even if I dont enter 
> > > > > > it, I can
> > > > > > see the full local cache of the imap folders and all recent message
> > > > > > contents.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't like this. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is there a way to force evo to encrypt the local cache (imap 
> > > > > > account and
> > > > > > also the exchage account if possible), so that I get asked for a 
> > > > > > password to
> > > > > > open the local cache (or better, the default gnome keyring could be 
> > > > > > used)?
> > > > > > any hint on how to do this?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > >           
> > > > > 
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