On 3/11/2025 9:26 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 1:41:29 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



    On 3/10/2025 11:48 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


    On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 12:33:36 AM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



        On 3/10/2025 11:04 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


        On Monday, March 10, 2025 at 11:15:07 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker
        wrote:



            On 3/9/2025 11:14 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
            I don't think you understand my question. Without a CC,
            or equivalently setting it to zero, don't we get a
            universe which is in UNSTABLE equilibrium, like
            balancing a pencil of its writing tip, so the universe
            expands or contracts in a very short time interval?
            Isn't this the issue Einstein faced? If so, why would
he choose a positive CC? AG

            No, Einstein's model with the CC=0 was static.  The
            model when I was in grad school was an expanding
            universe with the CC=0 but the expansion kinetic energy
            was just balanced by the negative gravitational
            potential, so the universe would expand forever but
            slowing asymptotically toward static.

            Brent


        Now I am totally confused. If E's model was static with CC=0,
        Sorry, I miswrote.  I intended to say Einstein had to make
        the CC>0 in order to balance the gravitational attraction.

        Brent


    OK. Does setting CC>0 result in unstable equilibrium as I think
    Clark claimed, and discovered by Arthur Eddington?  IOW, will the
    universe suddenly contract if it is expanding? AG
    No, it's unstable as a static universe, which was the general
    opinion of astronomers at the time.  The Milky Way was the only
    known galaxy.  The other smudges in the night sky were "nebula". 
    So Einstein calculated a value for the CC that would just balance
    the gravitational attraction of the Milky Way, to explain why it
    hadn't collapsed.  But this produced an unstable equilbrium.  It
    was about 10yrs later that Hubble discovered the universe was much
    bigger than just the Milky Way and it was expanding.

    Brent


It was Arthur Eddington in 1930 who showed that a static universe with CC>0, would be in unstable equilibrium. AG
He may have shown it, but I don't believe he was the first. Friedmann, in 1922, already showed that the universe must either expand or collapse, that it has no steady state with or without a CC.

Brent

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