On Tuesday, January 14, 2025 at 6:59:27 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:




On 1/14/2025 7:03 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:



On Tuesday, January 14, 2025 at 7:38:56 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:

On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 7:27 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:

* > If both happened at the same time, we'd have a paradox, but they 
don't. *


*So what are we arguing about? *
 
*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*


We were arguing about is whether I ever changed my mind. Quentin doesn't 
believe I did. What do you say? AG

More important is this: if fitting and not fitting do not  happen at the 
same time, 

They do happen at the same time as clearly shown on my diagrams.  In the 
garage frame the entrance door closes before the exit door has to open.  
The car is in the garage for about 2.5 nano-seconds.  In the car frame the 
doors are open at the same time so the car extends thru both.

Brent


*Interesting. Then why does Clark say the paradox exists if the fitting 
occurs simultaneously in both frames, and from that I inferred that the 
simultaneity arguments shows they don't and that's the resolution? AG *

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