How do you expect you can properly fix a car if you don't know how it function ? You just do guesswork, you give it a few kicks and maybe it starts. This is how present-day science works given that it doesn't work based on fundamentals, namely based on the working of consciousness. Sure, you can keep doing research this way: kick it till it works. And you might save a few lives. But if you were start from fundamentals, then you would know exactly what you were doing and you will save 8 billion lives. Not that it would matter at that point, given that at that level of development we will manipulate consciousness to such a degree that we will not even need bodies anymore.
On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 17:17:26 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote: > On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 8:11:38 AM UTC-7 Cosmin Visan wrote: > > @Alan. You can do cancer research. But since that research is not based on > fundamental ideas about reality, it will be just guesswork: Just try 1000 > different drugs and cross fingers that one might work. Instead, if people > would actually understand consciousness, they would cure cancer in 1 week. > > > *I might believe that if you were able to contribute ANYTHING to ANY > problem discussed here. All I read are grandiose claims with nothing > practical forthcoming. AG* > > > On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 17:08:48 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 8:01:18 AM UTC-7 Cosmin Visan wrote: > > You can continue cancer research. But is just like playing World of > Warcraft in order to get the legendary gear. > > > *If you get cancer, which is not my wish, you can tell your doctor that > the pain and suffering is purely imaginary, not to mention the possible > early termination of your life. Now, do us all a favor and cease posting > like a fool. AG * > > > On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 16:48:23 UTC+2 John Clark wrote: > > *You didn't answer my question. Should cancer research be stopped, and if > not why not? * > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 9:35 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > You make the classical confusion between epistemology and ontology. Only > because you can watch a movie with Spider-Man (epistemology), it doesn't > follow that Spider-Man exists (ontology). > > On Saturday, 4 January 2025 at 15:39:31 UTC+2 John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 8:04 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > *>>the question of list moderation would not be relevant at this time if > one very recent list member didn't think page after page of nothing but > "(:>)" characters was an intelligent rebuttal, and ALL scientific questions > of the form "what is the nature of X?" can be answered by simply saying "X > does not exist".* > > > > *> Of course, given that consciousness is all there is. Why would you > waste time talking about things that don't exist ?* > > > *So there's no point in doing cancer research because cancer does not > exist? Do I have that right? * > * John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2983c32c-d038-43ef-9223-3f0bc3469ffen%40googlegroups.com.
