On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 5:47 AM Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:

>> *My conclusion is that there's a contradiction in evidence, since the
>> situation of the car fitting and not fitting makes no sense. AG *
>
>
> *>>And the answer only lies in disagreement of simultaneity of both doors
> being closed and the car fully inside the garage, and that is dependent on
> the frame of reference,  there aren't any contradictions.*


*Exactly! In Special Relativity two observers in different frames of
reference can disagree about what order a series of events should be in,
provided that the events are "spacelike separated", that is to say if even
the speed of light is not fast enough to send a signal between them. One
observer could say events should be ordered XYZ and another insist the
order should be XZY. The classic example is two lightning strikes hitting
the front and back of a very fast moving train, an observer on the train
might see them as simultaneous but an observer on the ground see one hit
happening before the other.  *

*And in the example that Alan has trouble with, one observer might say the
back of the car entered the garage before the back door of the garage was
opened, and another observer in a different frame of reference would say
that happened after the back door of the garage was opened. So one would
say the car was able to fit into the garage and the other would say it
could not.*

* John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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