On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 12:21 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 16 Aug 2019, at 13:30, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:23 PM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 16 Aug 2019, at 03:27, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 8/15/2019 5:06 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:25 AM Lawrence Crowell < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I started reading this. It looks similar to the PR box argument. >>> >> >> I have skimmed through it. It seems that Alice and Bob both split locally >> according to the results they get, but then rely on magic to prevent the >> incorrect pairs ever meeting. >> >> >> I think you can interpret it as decoherence spreads at light speed from >> Alice's measurement event and decoheres Bob's system when it comes within >> the future light cone of Alice's measurement....and vice versa, which is >> why it needs to assume MWI to maintain symmetry between Alice and Bob. >> >> >> That is my understanding. That explains entirely, it seems to me, the >> violation of Bell’s inequality in a local, but multi-versal type of >> reality. When Alice and Bob separates, they simply never meet again, but >> both can meet their correlated counterparts. Each Alice and each Bob can >> meet only their correlates, that they enforce by decoherence, at a speed >> lower than light. >> > > > That doesn't explain anything. > > > I know you’ve already try to expand on this, but it seems to me that this > was based on some incorrect interpretation of the notion of worlds, like if > a measurement made by Alice has to change the possible outcomes available > to Bob, but that does not happen in the relative state view. Only a > physical collapse would entail some “action at a distance”; without > collapse anywhere, I don’t see how could such influence at a distance > occurs. We did disagree also on the numbers of histories involved, which I > take to be always infinite. > Clarify your argument, then, and remove the suggestion of magic. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLRsC3m5s9hf5Ofb3RW%2BDAd0NHzhhEmYeb9E6G7w7KJcwg%40mail.gmail.com.
