On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 8:00:42 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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> On 5/16/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> This is what I call one form of *consciousness denial*
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> https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/13/the-consciousness-deniers/
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> in that information processing absent actual *first-class* entities of
> qualia (or experiences) can only produce zombies. One needs information
> processing operating in a *material substrate* where those entities are
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> You still need to explain why your elbow isn't conscious.
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> Brent
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The elbow (the matter that is halfway down your arm between your shoulder
and hand) could have proto-consciousness (or a proto-experientiality, as
some say):
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/panpsychism/#PanpVersPanp
But the elbow will not have full consciousness (first-person) because* it
cannot do information processing* (at the level of the brain with all its
neural connectivity).
*High-level (and higher-order) information processing is necessary, but not
sufficient for consciousness.*
That is all of panpsychism in a nutshell.
(I've posted the research of Hedda Hassel Mørch here several times now.
This is what she talks about.)
@philipthrift
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