> On 9 May 2019, at 22:18, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 5/9/2019 1:05 PM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: >> And what has this to do with consciousness ? >> >> On Thursday, 9 May 2019 00:40:59 UTC+3, Terren Suydam wrote: >> For me it boils down to that a theory of everything in which all possible >> worlds exist is more plausible than one in which only world does. > > I suspect that arises from a lack of reflection on what "all possible" might > mean.
Yes. And with the digital mechanist assumption, the answer is clear cut, we can take all true sigma_1 arithmetical proposition. It is Turing equivalent to a universal dovetailer. We can’ take more, that is the ultimate price of saying yes to the doctor. Like Judson Webb argued, Mechanism is a Finitism. That sigma_truth emulates the richer machines, which have more cognitive power than just the sigma_1 arithmetical truth, like believing in some induction axioms, like PA, or any of its consistent extensions, like ZF, a fortiori its sound extensions. An example of a (hopefully) consistent extension of PA is PA + "the axiom “I am currently writing a mail which will soon be sent to a local group of universal numbers”. When I have more time I will explain again the universal machinery phi_i, and w_i, and provides 4 concrete examples, …and the difference between a universal machinery and a universal number. Then the rest follows rom the laws of arithmetical self-reference, which applies to machine with richer beliefs, like ZF. By definition of ZF, ZF say yes to the doctor! In a sense, there is no “possible”, only true (sigma_1) arithmetical propositions, Quine should be re-assured, but those arithmetical propositions contains all computational histories, which can support more reflective machines, etc. That determines a flux of consciousness which differentiate, not by computation, but by the first person indeterminacy, on all “1p-local" relative computations. The possible is given by the local relative view. They obey different, logics, imposed by the incompleteness theorems. The first person, the soul, the inner god, is intuitionist, the 3p-outer god and intellect are weak logic missing the modus ponies, like a “scratched universal machine, or a generalisation of universal dovetlaing), the material mode, with the consistency criterion are quantum logics. The universal machine which look inward can see the birds of all realities, but to get the mathematics, she has to add, ad infinitum, induction axioms as well as other axioms. It is *big*, and non trivial. Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4e2e4734-a465-4be5-436c-c5e5d06881c1%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4e2e4734-a465-4be5-436c-c5e5d06881c1%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/78CFE08A-7591-45AF-8342-4A09279E703E%40ulb.ac.be.
