I rather like Wheeler's comment: "Time is what prevents everything
from happening at once".

Another way of putting it is that in order to perceive something,
there needs to be a something with which to compare it. To get a bit
of information, one needs a difference. So time is necessary in order
to compare two things in one's mind.

(Page 63 of my book, "Theory of Nothing").

Cheers

On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 03:40:11PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> Russell,
> 
> If it's not intractable, then what's the explanation?
> 
> Edgar
> 
> On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:17:59 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 02:43:32PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: 
> > > Russell, 
> > > 
> > > That's a block time interpretation, not as you imply anything proven. 
> > > Certainly the equations themselves don't necessitate that... 
> > > 
> > > If you accept that you are faced with the intractable problem of 
> > explaining 
> > > the source of that moving 1p viewpoint. 
> > > 
> >
> > It doesn't seem particularly intractable to me, although it is related 
> > to the "hard question" of how qualia comes about, so perhaps you are 
> > alluding to that. 
> >
> > > And notice that strictly block time says NOTHING moves, not even a 1p 
> > > viewpoint, 
> >
> > Block time doesn't mention 1p at all. The subjective is not part of 
> > its explanatory reach. Perhaps you are trying to attribute too much 
> > explanatory power to the notion of block time? If you hold that block 
> > time is all that there is, then you are basically eliminatavist in 
> > your approach. Julian Barbour is in that camp, but I think that most 
> > denizens of this list are not, except perhaps John Clark who dismisses 
> > it as pee-pee. 
> >
> > > that it's all a mysterious illusion of perspective that makes it 
> > > seem like something moves when nothing actually does, though of course 
> > no 
> > > one can explain why or how.... 
> > > 
> > > Edgar 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> >
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