On Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:19:40 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 15 Jan 2014, at 20:14, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Liz, (and Dan) > > When people die they vanish from existence. To believe otherwise may be > comforting, but it's just superstition.. > > > In your "theory" perhaps. But then "my body" is not Turing emulable. Comp > must be false. > > > > There must be a living human body to produce a human consciousness. > > > That is true. But if the body do the "human" part of that consciousness, > consciousness itself is not the result of the computations, but of all > computations, if not all arithmetic (which is not Turing emulable). > > The body does not produces consciousness, it only make it possible for > consciousness to forget the "higher self", and deludes us (in some sense) > in having a "little ego" embedded in some history. >
I agree. I would not say that the body makes it possible to forget the higher self, I would say that the body is a history of the higher self, but seen from an exteriorized perspective. It's not a delusion to be embedded in an ego history, it's just a throttling of the bandwidth of sensitivity. Craig > Bruno > > > > > Edgar > > > > On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:03:42 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >> >> I have to agree I don't think Edgar posted any links to his business or >> blog. Indeed if he had posted links to a blog on his theory I would >> certainly have looked because the explanations here have been less than >> clear. >> >> I haven't criticise Edgar for a lack of immediate response once, never >> mind on several occasions. I have criticised his lack of any response to my >> questions when he's replied to other things but obviously can't or won't >> answer me. (I am still thinking of starting a thread on outstanding >> questions to Edgar, but tbh I can't be bothered because I know it won't get >> me or any of us anywhere.) >> >> On the subject of grief, I have wondered about that too. One reason is >> that I don't know that, say, QTI is correct. But I think the main one is >> that I personally have lost that person forever. My best friend was >> murdered in 1995, for example, and that is someone I will never see again. >> Likewise my father, who died over 10 years ago now. If they're still alive >> and well somewhere in the multiverse that's a bit of a comfort but I don't >> know that. Maybe I will realise it eventually, when I'm 150 say... >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
