On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/17/2014 5:40 PM, LizR wrote: > > But apparently the brain has a lot to do with those computations in >> Platonia, c.f. anesthetic. Notice that I'm not a disciple of Platonia. >> > > Me neither, I am agnostic - but within comp it is assumed, so while > discussing comp we have to assume it (unless we're rejecting comp on that > basis). But I can see that Platonia makes sense in that 17 does seem to be > prime idependently of you and me and everyone else, which is (I'm told) > enough for the whole shebang to come into some sort of existence. > > > I don't think you have to buy the equivalence between (17 is prime) is > true and (17 is prime) exists. > No, but all statements about programs can be translated into truth statements about the natural numbers. So you could say "Program X is conscious of the information Y" is a true statement, and that truth implies that the conscious thought of X exists. (Just as the primeness of 17 implies two factors of 17 exist). Jason > In fact Bruno always says you only have to believe the first for his > argument to succeed. But then he slips in the UD and it seems that every > truth of arithmetic implies and existence. I think this is the same > problem as step 8. If everything has to be simulated, then there's no > difference between simulated and real. If I'm "really" existing in an > infinity of world/simulations that are *just like this one up to now* - > then they ARE this one (c.f. Leibniz). > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
